🎓 Is College Still Worth It in 2025?

Welcome to The Standup – where developers, creators, and founders debate the big questions. In this episode, we sit down with David Heinemeier Hansson (DHH), the creator of Ruby on Rails and Basecamp co-founder.

👉 Is College Worth It in 2025?

We dive deep into:

⏳ The ROI of college in a post-AI world

🇺🇸 Why American higher ed is broken (from a Danish POV)

📉 Are CS degrees still worth $250K?

💸 The myth of the “four-year luxury cruise”

🤖 How AI is disrupting the junior dev job market

🔍 Hiring: Is college even a useful signal anymore?

🧠 IQ vs wisdom vs vibes – what really matters in hiring

🧰 Is programming a trade? Should we move to apprenticeships?

👨‍🌾 Why every dev wants to be a farmer (and why that’s delusional)

Whether you’re considering college, hiring devs, or already knee-deep in student debt, this conversation pulls no punches and may just change how you think about education, hiring, and the future of software development.

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