The moment someone tells you "you're just too sensitive," a little piece of you might shrink inside. That dismissal of your experience happens far too often for the 15-20% of us who identify as highly sensitive people. But what if your sensitivity isn't a weakness to overcome but an important aspect of who you are—one that deserves understanding, especially when chronic pain enters the picture?

Sensitivity creates a unique relationship with pain. Your heightened awareness of both internal and external stimuli means your nervous system processes the world differently. Like a smoke alarm with the sensitivity dialed up, your brain might trigger pain signals more readily than others. This doesn't make your pain any less real; it simply means your path to healing might look different too.

Throughout this episode, we share personal stories about navigating life as sensitive people (our whole household qualifies—except perhaps our fearless cat, Hermione!). Tanner opens up about his experiences from childhood through adulthood, from feeling overwhelmed in locker room roughhousing to managing financial stress differently. These aren't stories of weakness but illustrations of how differently our nervous systems can be wired.

The good news? Understanding this connection unlocks powerful healing possibilities. Rather than fighting against your sensitivity, we explore how embracing it while developing regulation skills creates lasting relief. Through embodiment practices, safety signals (like breathwork and movement), and gradual exposure to overwhelming stimuli, you can teach your brain new patterns while honoring your sensitive nature.

Your sensitivity likely gives you gifts others don't share: deeper empathy, creativity, meaningful connections, and an appreciation for beauty's subtleties. As you listen to this episode, we hope you'll begin to see your sensitivity not as something to overcome, but as an essential part of you that—when properly understood—might be your greatest strength in overcoming chronic pain and creating the life you truly desire.

Tanner Murtagh and Anne Hampson are therapists who treat neuroplastic pain and mind-body symptoms. They are also married! In his 20s, Tanner overcame chronic pain and a fibromyalgia diagnosis by learning his symptoms were occurring due to learned brain pathways and nervous system dysregulation. Post-healing, Tanner and Anne have dedicated their lives to developing effective treatment and education for neuroplastic pain and symptoms. Listen and learn how to assess your own chronic pain and symptoms, gain tools to retrain the brain and nervous system, and make gradual changes in your life and health!

The Mind-Body Couple podcast is owned by Pain Psychotherapy Canada Inc. This podcast is produced by Alex Klassen, who is one of the wonderful therapists at our agency in Calgary, Alberta. https://www.painpsychotherapy.ca/

Tanner, Anne, and Alex also run the MBody Community, which is an in-depth online course that provides step-by-step guidance for assessing, treating, and resolving mind-body pain and symptoms. https://www.mbodycommunity.com

Also check out Tanner's YouTube channel for more free education and practices: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-Fl6WaFHnh4ponuexaMbFQ

And follow us for daily education posts on Instagram: @painpsychotherapy

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Your body isn't failing you - your beliefs might be. Throughout history, healers and scientists have observed how powerful beliefs can create real physical symptoms — from the "voodoo deaths" documented in 1942 to modern medical misdiagnoses that trigger health declines despite no actual disease. That same power of belief has created what we call a "pathology culture" that's making millions chronically ill.

This episode dives into fascinating research that challenges everything we think we know about chronic pain. Studies from Lithuania reveal that car accident victims rarely develop chronic whiplash syndromes compared to Western countries—simply because they don't expect to. Even more striking, German researchers found that people in simulated car accidents (with no actual impact) developed whiplash symptoms at the same rate as those in real accidents. Meanwhile, demolition derby drivers who regularly experience multiple collisions report almost no neck pain.

Why? Because what we believe about our bodies fundamentally shapes our physical experience.

We explore the misconception that structural "abnormalities" seen on medical imaging are the cause of pain. Research consistently shows these findings—bulging discs, tears, degeneration—are incredibly common in pain-free individuals. When you're told your spine has "damage," your brain interprets that as danger, amplifying pain even when your body is structurally sound.

Most chronic conditions—from fibromyalgia and back pain to IBS, headaches, and chronic fatigue—can be fully or partly neuroplastic, meaning they're generated by the brain's danger signals rather than actual damage. Understanding this opens up powerful healing pathways through belief change, brain retraining, and nervous system regulation.

Ready to challenge your beliefs about your body and take healing back into your own hands? This episode gives you the scientific foundation to start that journey. If you've been frustrated by treatments that only address your physical symptoms, this perspective could change everything.

Tanner Murtagh and Anne Hampson are therapists who treat neuroplastic pain and mind-body symptoms. They are also married! In his 20s, Tanner overcame chronic pain and a fibromyalgia diagnosis by learning his symptoms were occurring due to learned brain pathways and nervous system dysregulation. Post-healing, Tanner and Anne have dedicated their lives to developing effective treatment and education for neuroplastic pain and symptoms. Listen and learn how to assess your own chronic pain and symptoms, gain tools to retrain the brain and nervous system, and make gradual changes in your life and health!

The Mind-Body Couple podcast is owned by Pain Psychotherapy Canada Inc. This podcast is produced by Alex Klassen, who is one of the wonderful therapists at our agency in Calgary, Alberta. https://www.painpsychotherapy.ca/

Tanner, Anne, and Alex also run the MBody Community, which is an in-depth online course that provides step-by-step guidance for assessing, treating, and resolving mind-body pain and symptoms. https://www.mbodycommunity.com

Also check out Tanner's YouTube channel for more free education and practices: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-Fl6WaFHnh4ponuexaMbFQ

And follow us for daily education posts on Instagram: @painpsychotherapy

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What happens after chronic pain subsides? When the symptoms that once consumed your attention finally ease, where does all that pent-up energy go? This powerful conversation with therapist and coach Anna Holtzman explores the rarely discussed "what next" chapter of the healing journey.

Anna shares her personal path from debilitating migraines to recovery through mind-body approaches, detailing the stages that transformed not just her pain experience but her relationship with herself. Through psychoeducation, journaling, and letting go of perfectionism, she discovered that healing wasn't about making her world smaller—it was about expanding into creativity, purpose, and authentic expression.

This episode challenges the common belief that we need to restrict our lives to heal. Instead, Anna reveals how symptoms often decrease when we engage fully with our passions, provided we replace our inner "drill sergeant" with a compassionate coach. She addresses the delicate balance between stillness and creative drive, offering practical insights for navigating this middle ground without triggering your nervous system.

Whether you're still in pain, beginning to recover, or fully into your "what next" chapter, this conversation provides valuable tools for channeling your energy into what truly matters.

Anna Holtzman is a licensed therapist and coach who helps creatives, entrepreneurs, and coaches move through fear and self-doubt so they can grow their work in the world without abandoning themselves.

After healing her own chronic migraines using mind-body techniques—and supporting others in chronic pain recovery for the past five years—Anna became passionate about helping people navigate the “what’s next” chapter after pain. She guides clients through the tender terrain of visibility, creative leadership, and sustainable impact, drawing on both her nervous system expertise and her past careers in publishing and television.

Through her coaching, workshops, and podcast How to Trust Yourself, Anna supports sensitive, passionate people in showing up boldly, gently, and unapologetically in their work.

She lives in Queens, NY with her husband, stepdaughter, and three orange cats.

Contact Anna Here: https://www.annaholtzman.com/?r_done=1

Tanner Murtagh and Anne Hampson are therapists who treat neuroplastic pain and mind-body symptoms. They are also married! In his 20s, Tanner overcame chronic pain and a fibromyalgia diagnosis by learning his symptoms were occurring due to learned brain pathways and nervous system dysregulation. Post-healing, Tanner and Anne have dedicated their lives to developing effective treatment and education for neuroplastic pain and symptoms. Listen and learn how to assess your own chronic pain and symptoms, gain tools to retrain the brain and nervous system, and make gradual changes in your life and health!

The Mind-Body Couple podcast is owned by Pain Psychotherapy Canada Inc. This podcast is produced by Alex Klassen, who is one of the wonderful therapists at our agency in Calgary, Alberta. https://www.painpsychotherapy.ca/

Tanner, Anne, and Alex also run the MBody Community, which is an in-depth online course that provides step-by-step guidance for assessing, treating, and resolving mind-body pain and symptoms. https://www.mbodycommunity.com

Also check out Tanner's YouTube channel for more free education and practices: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-Fl6WaFHnh4ponuexaMbFQ

And follow us for daily education posts on Instagram: @painpsychotherapy

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