The hosts speak with Julia Berg, LPC-Associate and Phoebe Coccetti, LPC-Associate about all things limerence. The term is used to describe fantasizing and obsessing over someone you don't have a relationship with or can never be with. These therapists began a support group to aid daters experiencing limerence. We cover everything from what it says about our attachment systems to Lindsay and Ilyse exploring why they might be prone to such a state.

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Forever hilling. Ilyse's divorce has been final for over a year and Lindsay's will be final any day now. After each being in their relationships for 13 years they have a lot to say on the topic of togetherness, seperation, and aloneness. More conversations, less stigma and shame please.

Some reading recs!

David Whyte: The House of Belonging

Lindsay's Substack essay: Gut health? Intuition Health Baby.

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Lindsay and Ilyse speak with activist and author of "Love in a Fucked Up World," Dean Spade on the healing power of relationships and how to have better ones. Dean shares all he has learned about relationships through his own hilling journey and being in activist spaces. They touch on each of their favorite topics including app culture, grief, attachment, and sexuality. You don't want to miss out on Dean's wisdom and Lindsay's tears.

Find his book at your local independent bookstore and find him on social media at @spade.dean

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