Why do you keep shutting down, blaming, avoiding, or getting defensive—especially with the people you love most?

In this eye-opening episode, Steph & Craig sit down with therapist and podcast host Tony Overbay to explore emotional immaturity—what it looks like, where it comes from, and why it’s one of the most widespread issues quietly running our lives.

We dive into:

• What emotional immaturity really is (and isn’t)
• How to identify it in yourself and others
• Why defensiveness, withdrawal, and blame are often signs of unhealed wounds
• The difference between emotional reactivity and emotional maturity
• Why therapy often doesn’t “work” until this is addressed

Tony outlines the specific patterns we develop as kids to survive emotionally—and how those same patterns show up in adulthood as reactivity, avoidance, and emotional immaturity.

Whether you're on a healing journey, in a relationship, or just tired of repeating the same patterns—this episode is for you.

💬 Share your thoughts in the comments — we’d love to hear how it lands.

Tony's Website- https://www.tonyoverbay.com/
🎧 Listen to his podcast: The Virtual Couch- https://open.spotify.com/show/556p6015q9GP4bMIPu7DWy?si=c6ec123273c1422b
Waking up to Narcissism- https://open.spotify.com/show/4S15gTu16uYGyNF9BuS1Ex
Follow him on Instagram- https://www.instagram.com/virtual.couch/

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