How did a 180-year-old Italian digestif become one of America’s most beloved bar staples?

Though Fernet-Branca has enjoyed a storied legacy in Europe since its creation in 1845, it remained a niche curiosity in the United States for much of its life. The intensely bitter, herbal liqueur was appreciated only by the most adventurous palates. Today, however, it's a fixture behind the bar from upscale cocktail lounges to neighborhood dive bars, most often knocked back in shot form and celebrated for its distinct flavor profile.

Who better to trace Fernet-Branca’s unlikely rise than Edoardo Branca, managing director of Branca USA and a sixth-generation member of the family behind the brand?

We caught up with Edoardo at spirits industry trade show Bar Convent Brooklyn to talk about how Fernet-Branca earned its cult status in the U.S. He shared insights on the brand’s roots, its journey from obscure digestif to bartender favorite, and how the company is carefully evolving to stay relevant in a fast-changing drinks culture. From navigating pricing pressures to expanding the Branca USA portfolio with modern, consumer-focused offerings, Edoardo explains how he is stewarding a legacy while embracing innovation.

Show notes:

0:25: Interview: Edoardo Branca, 6th Generation Family Member and Board President, Branca USA – Eduardo talks about his journey from Milan (he’s an Inter fan) to Southern California and ultimately to New York. He also discusses his current role in which he oversees U.S. operations and highlights the most personally rewarding aspect of his job. Edorado explains how Fernet Branca became popular within the bartender community after gaining traction as a popular shot in 1990s San Francisco, the emotional resonance many have with their first Fernet experience and reflects on the global cultural differences in how it’s consumed. He acknowledges generational shifts and concerns about declining alcohol consumption among younger drinkers, but expresses confidence that appreciation for spirits and bar culture will mature with age and experience. Edorado also talks about the growing Branca portfolio, noting that lower-ABV products like Antica Formula vermouth align with growing health-conscious trends and also shares his philosophy on mergers and acquisitions.

Brands in this episode: Fernet-Branca, Jägermeister, Jameson, Antica Formula

Could plastic packaging be the next target on MAHA’s hitlist? Have we reached peak chili crisp? Has Dubai chocolate already jumped the shark? The hosts dig in and debate, then spotlight a new $450 million fund that’s fueling emerging food and beverage brands. We also sit down with Tara Lindley of High West, who talks about how the revered whiskey brand balances innovation with market demand.

0:35: No Ski, Just Apres. A CPG Hub. Bright News, Big Money. Dubai Snickers. Hoarding Crisp. THC Bs. – John is back home and in the studio, though he's still craving the Guinness from his recent travels. Jacqui dives deep into Nombase’s new Data Hub, while Ray and Mike shine a spotlight on snack brand Sunnie, which just landed $1 million in fresh funding. They also break down the details of Shore Capital’s massive third fund. In a segment meant to be rapid-fire, “Buy or Sell” turns into a spirited debate. Does Dubai chocolate still have momentum? Are plastic bottles a new target for RFK Jr.'s supporters? And has chili crisp finally hit its saturation point? The crew also taste-tests Like Air’s latest opus, before Mike rounds things off with a few sips of cannabis-infused beverages.

31:12: Interview: Tara Lindley, Director of Sensory QA & New Product Development, High West – Utah’s first legal distillery since 1870, High West crafts distinctive whiskeys that represent the culture and terrain of the American West. Known for its award-winning portfolio, High West is especially celebrated for its limited-edition releases like The Noble Share, High Country American Single Malt, A Midwinter Night’s Dram, and Bourye. In this interview, Tara talks about how High West balances innovation with market demand in a competitive and evolving spirits landscape and the collaborative relationship between product development and marketing. She also discusses how consumer insights shape new releases, and why strategic storytelling and education are essential for building loyalty, especially among younger, more selective drinkers.

Brands in this episode: High West, Guinness, Sunnie, Lunchables, Chia Smash, Just The Fun Part, Snickers, Kit Kat, Cholula, Tabasco, Heinz, Jala-Lujah, Momofuku, Capitana, Somos, This Little Goat, Hidden Valley Ranch, Fly By Jing, Masala Gossip, Masala Bliss, Hot Pot Queen, Homiya, Gloria Shito, Like Air, Plift, Squier’s, Goodmellow

A hip-hop icon. A lifelong bond. A shared passion for craft spirits. And a warehouse full of aged whiskey.

When these elements came together, they gave rise to Amber & Opal, a premium honey botanical rye whiskey that’s turning heads in the spirits industry.

Launched in 2024, Amber & Opal was co-founded by Ja Rule, Herb Rice, Sandy Sandiford, and Kelvin Barton. A rye whiskey blended with orange blossom honey and an elegant mix of botanicals, including cinnamon, fig, ginger, and black tea, the spirit was crafted to bridge worlds: approachable for newcomers, yet complex enough to intrigue seasoned whiskey enthusiasts.

At the buzzing Amber & Opal booth during the 2025 Bar Convent Brooklyn trade show in June, Ja, Herb, and Sandy shared insights into the brand’s origin story and the meaning behind its evocative name. They also discuss the intentional, measured way they’re leveraging Ja’s star power and why they are confident that the flavor-forward whiskey has the potential to redefine what modern spirits can be.

Show notes:

0:25: Ja Rule, Herb Rice & Sandy Sandiford, Co-Founders, Amber & Opal – Ray learns how Ja Rule signs checks before the musician and entrepreneur explains why Amber & Opal shouldn’t be labeled a “celebrity brand,” and why the founding team was advised against making a flavored whiskey. Herb talks about how product development was focused on flavor, accessibility and innovation, and how in a tequila-saturated market, it is strategically positioned to stand out. The team also discusses how the package and label design reflects an emphasis on inclusivity and storytelling before sharing a sample of the whiskey with Ray, who offers his take on its taste and potential appeal.

Brands in this episode: Amber & Opal, Jack Daniel’s