Today, we’re diving deep into a conversation that’s particularly close to my heart. I’m joined by the brilliant James Graham, an acclaimed playwright who has managed to turn my life story into a powerful stage play called Punch.

James takes us behind the scenes, sharing his emotional and creative journey of adapting my book into a theatrical masterpiece. Together, we explore the transformative power of storytelling and the profound impact it can have on individuals and communities. We also dig into the wider themes of restorative justice, forgiveness, and personal growth, which resonate so deeply not just with me but with everyone involved in this project.

This episode encapsulates so many of the emotions we've tackled this season: the struggles and the breakthroughs, the doubts and the hopes. And I can't wait for you to hear James discuss how this project has spurred his own growth and reflections on societal issues.

Our conversation is layered, rich with insights, and brings forward that unique blend of accountability and redemption that defines Right From Wrong. This episode promises to inspire and challenge you, offering a new perspective on the ripple effects of our actions and the transformative power of empathy.

00:01:09 Looking Back on Season 1. As I wrap up the first season of Right From Wrong, I reflect on the key themes, powerful conversations, and incredible guests who have shaped my journey from punishment to redemption.

00:02:39 Introducing James Graham. I sit down with playwright James Graham, the man who took my story and turned it into the stage play Punch. We talk about his background and what drew him to my journey.

00:03:24 Processing the Impact of the Play. James shares his thoughts on the reception of Punch—the overwhelming audience response, critical acclaim, and what it meant to see the play come to life.

00:04:22 Reaching Beyond the Theatre. We discuss how Punch has resonated beyond the stage, with people in the legal system—judges, politicians, and educators—engaging with its message on restorative justice.

00:07:29 Growing Up Working-Class with Big Dreams. James reflects on his childhood in a mining village and how his family’s support, despite financial struggles, allowed him to pursue his passion for the arts.

00:10:04 Challenging Cultural Expectations. We talk about how pursuing the arts isn’t always encouraged in working-class communities and how James’s school played a crucial role in making theatre feel accessible.

00:11:40 Hard Work and Family Sacrifices. Both James and I share stories about the work ethic instilled in us by our families, particularly the sacrifices our mums made to give us opportunities.

00:14:20 Immersing in Restorative Justice. James opens up about the deep research process he went through to ensure Punch authentically captured restorative justice and the emotional weight of my story.

00:17:11 Relating on a Personal Level. James shares how themes of vulnerability, relationships, and emotional expression in my journey resonated with his own struggles and experiences.

00:21:58 Why Punch Matters to So Many People. We explore how the themes in Punch—accountability, forgiveness, and second chances—have connected with audiences from all walks of life.

00:24:45 The Power of Forgiveness. We unpack how forgiveness is portrayed in the play and the impact it’s had on audiences, as well as on James and me personally.

00:24:55 Healing Through Theatre. I reflect on how theatre has helped me connect with people in ways I never expected and how the collaborative effort of the