Today's episode is special—and honestly, it might be historic.

We've got two of the fastest high school distance runners in the country—maybe ever—joining us just days before they toe the line at one of the most anticipated races of the year: the Festival of Miles.

First up: Josiah Tostenson. He's the second-fastest indoor miler in U.S. high school history, clocking a blistering 3:57.41 at Boston University. He was named the 2023–24 Gatorade Track and Field Player of the Year.

With a New Balance NIL deal and a future at the University of Washington, Josiah is already running at a professional level while still in high school.

Then there's Tayvon Kitchen—the quiet tactician with a monster engine. He broke the national high school record in the 3,000 meters with a jaw-dropping 7:55.48 at the 2025 Husky Classic. He became just the seventh U.S. high schooler to run under 4 minutes indoors, and capped his cross country season as Oregon's Gatorade Player of the Year. He's BYU-bound and has shown time and again he knows exactly when to strike.

Together, they're teammates, rivals, and co-authors of one of the most electric seasons we've ever seen—and it's all coming to a head at the Festival of Miles.

Today's podcast is a conversation with two best friends who happen to be the two fastest runners in the country. Tune in for stories, training insights, and good ol banter. Oh, and some MASSIVE talk around Festival of Miles.

This one won't disappoint you.

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From cross country and track star to talent management guru -- Matthew Sonnenfeldt has seen it all.

Matthew’s journey from high school champion to collegiate athlete and now a mentor and representative for other athletes illustrates a career built on passion, resilience, and a commitment to excellence in track and field.

At Knoxville West High School, Matthew captured the Tennessee state cross country championship in 2008, including a 14:50 5000m at the Foot Locker South Regional, earning him a spot at the Foot Locker Nationals.

Matthew began his collegiate running at the University of Kentucky, where he earned All-SEC Freshman Team honors in cross country in 2009. He then transferred to North Carolina State University, where he earned All-ACC honors in 2012 and All-NCAA Southeast Region honors in both 2011 and 2012.

He has PRs of 3:52.74 in the 1500m, 13:59.10 in the 5000m, 29:51.52 in the 10,000m, and 1:07:57 in the half marathon.

After his competitive running career, Sonnenfeldt became a track agent with Flynn Sports Management, where he supports and represents elite track and field athletes.

In today's conversation, Matt takes me through his background in the sport, how that shaped his outlook on the sport, running in the NCAA, becoming an agent, the importance of networking, trends in the sport, and his future goals in the sport.

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Today’s guest needs no introduction—but he definitely earned a new one.

Olin Hacker is back—and this time, he's bringing a U.S. title with him.

Just weeks ago, Olin stormed to victory at the USATF 5000m Championships in Indianapolis, running 13:32 to claim his first national crown. But this moment wasn’t built in a month—it was years in the making.

As a collegiate runner, Olin secured multiple Big Ten championships while running for Wisconsin in 2022, winning both the indoor 3000m and 5000m events, as well as the outdoor 5000m.

The highlight came in 2022 at the Oregon Relays, where he shattered the meet record in the 5000m, clocking 13:19.34 and improving his personal best by 16 seconds.

The rise continued, as Olin represented the U.S. at the 2024 World Athletics Indoor Championships, finishing fifth in the 3000m with a season-best of 7:45.4.

The Wisconsin Badger alum owns impressive PRs of 13:08.76 in the 5000m, 7:38.10 in the 3000m, and 3:56.59 in the mile. He took advantage of an extra year of eligibility due to the COVID-19 pandemic, returning for a seventh year, and claiming an NCAA 5000m victory.

In today's conversation, Olin walks me through his recent win at the USATF road 5k championships, winning his first national title, his new mindset going into 2025, why he's racing more this year, going back to FOM next month, his goals for USA's 2025, and starting a podcast.

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The Call Room: Road to Records continues as we’re joined by the electric Chiara Dailey — La Jolla’s own and one of the most exciting names in high school distance running — as she prepares for the 2025 HOKA Festival of Miles.

Chiara brings more than just speed. She’s relatable, confident, and on a mission.

She kicked off her 2025 outdoor season with a new PR in the 800m, clocking 2:07.99 for second place at the Mt. SAC Relays — proof that she’s sharpening her wheels for a big season.

Since bursting onto the scene as a Foot Locker All-American in 2022, Chiara has built a resume full of fire:

• 4:23.66 in the 1500m

• 4:40.28 in the 1600m

• 9:58.02 in the 3200m

• 15:28 in the three-mile cross country race

• 16:44 in the 5,000m cross country race

In December 2024, she dominated the CIF State Cross Country Championships, winning her second straight Division 4 title — and running the fastest time of the entire meet.

Oh, and she’s already competed at Foot Locker Nationals three times.

In today's conversation, Chiara takes me through her legendary three years of running, qualifying for Foot Locker Nationals all three of them, growing up in a running family, being coached by her dad, her excitement for this year’s FOM, being a HOKA NIL athlete, and so much more.

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Some runners show up. Others shut it down when it counts.

Riley Chamberlain is doing both.

The BYU junior has become one of the most dangerous closers in the NCAA, helping lead the Cougars to back-to-back national titles in the Distance Medley Relay—including their record-breaking 10:37.58 this season, which shattered both NCAA and BYU records.

But Riley’s not just a relay weapon. She’s been lighting it up solo, too—dropping 8:40.89 in the 3000m at the Husky Classic, the second-fastest time in the NCAA this year, and earning Second-Team All-American honors indoors.

With PRs of 4:08 in the 1500, 4:26 in the mile, and that scorching 8:40 in the 3K, Riley is quickly becoming one of the most consistent—and clutch—names on the track.

A former California Gatorade XC Athlete of the Year, two-time state champ, and NXN qualifier, Riley was a force back in high school. Now, she’s elevating her game on the national stage—racing smart, closing hard, and building a legacy at BYU.

In today's conversation, Riley walks me through her recent success in the sport, her ambtions for the future, winning NCAA titles, the culture of BYU, and much more.

If you're someone who is up-and-coming and looking to take that next step, this one is for you.

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What does it take to break one of the most iconic barriers in sports history?

Brad Wilkins, lead scientist on Nike’s Breaking2 project, joins the show to pull back the curtain on the science, strategy, and soul behind chasing the sub-two-hour marathon.

Dr. Wilkins currently serves as an Assistant Professor in the Department of Human Physiology at the University of Oregon. He is the Director of the Oregon Performance Research Laboratory (OPRL); his research focuses on the physiological limits of human performance.

Dr. Wilkins explores thermoregulation, neural control of the cardiovascular system, the impact of product interventions on performance outcomes–just to name a few. The work he has done in this field has led to over 40 published manuscripts and patents.

Dr. Wilkins received his Ph.D. from the University of Oregon and has also worked at the Mayo Clinic. He has been an accomplished scientist at Nike for 10 years now, and led the scientific team for the Breaking2 project, where he was instrumental in coordinating the various scientific disciplines involved in the project. (Eliud Kipchoge, Lelisa Desisa, and Zersenay Tadese attempted to break two hours in the marathon and narrowly missed the mark, with Kipchoge running a 2:00:25.)

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For TJ Hansen, running isn’t just a passion — it’s the job. And business is booming.

Up next in our 2025 HOKA Festival of Miles series, we welcome the Michigan standout who’s made a national name for himself on both grass and track.

Representing Freeland High School, TJ is a two-time Nike All-American and finished runner-up at the 2024 Nike Cross Nationals, crossing the line in 15:30.60 — just 2.5 seconds off the win. That followed a top-10 finish at NXN in 2023.

TJ also claimed the Gatorade Michigan Boys Cross Country Player of the Year title for 2024–25 and double-won at the Michigan Division 2 state meet in both the 1600m and 3200m.

His PRs show he’s got range and firepower: he has run 1:54.27 in the 800m; 3:47.05 in the 1500m; 4:03.87 in the mile; 8:51.12 in the two-mile; and 14:24.40 in the 5,000m.

Originally committed to Tennessee, TJ made a game-time decision to head west — he’s now bound for the University of Colorado, joining one of the deepest distance squads in the NCAA.

In today's conversation, TJ walks me through his successful career thus far, how he's risen to be one of the best, choosing Colorado, his ambtions and journey for Sub 4, how Festival Of Miles plays into that, his training, getting hit by a car, and more.

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As Keegan Smith is apt to say, winning isn’t everything – running your best is.

Up next in our 2025 HOKA Festival of Miles series, we welcome one of the most dominant high school distance runners in the country: Keegan Smith, straight out of Tennessee.

From the moment he laced up as a freshman, Keegan’s been smashing records and turning heads. He opened his high school career by dropping a 14:53.79 5K — the fastest ever by a U.S. freshman in cross country — then lit up the track with a 4:14.63 mile and an 8:52.96 3,200m, both national freshman records.

Fast forward to his senior year: Keegan clocked a blistering 14:23.26 at the Nike Cross Southeast Regional, breaking the Tennessee state record and proving he's still leveling up. He closed out his high school XC career with wins at NXR Southeast and Foot Locker South, and shattered three all-time course records along the way.

His PRs speak for themselves: he has run 1:51.93 in 800m; 3:55.64 in the 1500m; 4:11.90 in the mile; 8:54.97 in the two-mile; and 14:23.26 in the 5,000m in cross country.

The longer the race, the stronger he gets.

Now committed to the University of Colorado, Keegan’s taking his talent to one of the top distance programs in the nation. And with NIL deals already in place with HOKA and Precision Fuel & Hydration, he’s not just running fast — he’s building a brand.

In today's conversation, Keegan shares behind-the-scenes stories from my marathon (lol), what it was like to run a local race, his breakdown of XC postseason, why his XC season was so meaningful to him, running a 4:04 Mile while being injured, his ambitions for the outdoor track season, and racing the 2025 HOKA Festival of Miles meet.

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