In this episode, I sat down with the late Dr. John McDougall, a board-certified internist, nutritional expert, and pioneer of the starch-based diet, to talk about the incredible healing power of food. With over 50 years of experience treating chronic disease through nutrition, Dr. McDougall has helped thousands of people reverse conditions like heart disease, diabetes, obesity, and even autoimmune disorders — simply by changing what they eat.

We dive into the history, science, and simplicity of his starch-based approach to eating, which has been followed by healthy populations for millennia. He shares why protein and oil are overrated and even harmful, how the Western diet has made people sick for centuries, and why the future of our planet depends on what we put on our plates.

This conversation is a wake-up call to the health and environmental costs of our modern diet — and a reminder that the solution is simpler (and more delicious) than most realize.

✅ Why starch (rice, potatoes, corn, beans) is the ideal human food ✅ The truth about protein, oil, and high-protein diets ✅ How the Western diet has caused disease for thousands of years ✅ The environmental destruction of animal agriculture ✅ Why supplements (other than B12) aren’t necessary ✅ The moral and societal implications of feeding our children harmful diets ✅ Simple steps you can take today to reverse disease and feel your best

📚 Dr. McDougall’s Books:

📝 Free resources, recipes, and published research:

The late Dr. John McDougall was a board-certified internist, best-selling author, and founder of the McDougall Program, a nationally renowned 10-day residential health program. Over his 50-year career, Dr. McDougall has helped thousands regain their health through a simple, starch-centered, plant-based diet. His life’s mission has been to empower people to prevent and reverse chronic disease, protect animals, and preserve the planet — one meal at a time.

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