Kelly gets a chance to talk with Josh Patterson, host of the "[Re] Thinking Faith" podcast and scholar of Process/Relational Theology about a whole range of topics about how theology and belief intersect with this current moment. In Part 1, we focus on division--how ideas about theology and politics drive a wedge between us, and ways we can intentionally break out of that binary to connect with others across the divide. In Part 2, we get more philosophical as we delve into Josh's recent work in studying the connections between Process and Radical Theology. It's a fascinating conversation that touches on the many ways our theological thinking shapes our everyday lives. Josh Patterson is a writer, speaker, and thinker whose work includes the [Re]-Thinking Christianity podcast; panelist roles at ORTcon, Theology Beer Camp, and others, and contributions to several books on Process/Open & Relational Theology. Find him and his work at https://www.joshuagpatterson.com and on socials at IG:@rethinking_faith and FB: @josh.patterson.144734. (Note: Also for more info on Theology Beer Camp, visit: https://www.theologybeercamp2025.com -- keep an eye on this space, we'll update it soon with the discount code!)

Find your guides at Quoir Academy! If you’ve ever deconstructed your faith you know it’s not easy. But just imagine if you could have people to guide you through your process? People like, Jim Palmer, Kristin Du Mez, Jennifer Knapp, Brad Jersak, Brian Zahnd, Paul Young, and more? Well, if you head over to Quoir Academy and register for SQUARE 2 using the Promo Code [RAD] you’ll get 10% off the regular registration cost of this awesome course and community just for being a fan of our show. Follow this registration link: https://www.bk2sq1.com/square-2-next-steps-into-reconstruction?coupon=RAD

Kelly gets a chance to talk with Josh Patterson, host of the "[Re] Thinking Faith" podcast and scholar of Process/Relational Theology about a whole range of topics about how theology and belief intersect with this current moment. In Part 1, we focus on division--how ideas about theology and politics drive a wedge between us, and ways we can intentionally break out of that binary to connect with others across the divide. In Part 2, we get more philosophical as we delve into Josh's recent work in studying the connections between Process and Radical Theology. It's a fascinating conversation that touches on the many ways our theological thinking shapes our everyday lives.

Josh Patterson is a writer, speaker, and thinker whose work includes the [Re]-Thinking Christianity podcast; panelist roles at ORTcon, Theology Beer Camp, and others, and contributions to several books on Process/Open & Relational Theology. Find him and his work at https://www.joshuagpatterson.com and on socials at IG:@rethinking_faith and FB: @josh.patterson.144734. (Note: Also for more info on Theology Beer Camp, visit: https://www.theologybeercamp2025.com -- keep an eye on this space, we'll update it soon with the discount code!)

Find your guides at Quoir Academy! If you’ve ever deconstructed your faith you know it’s not easy. But just imagine if you could have people to guide you through your process? People like, Jim Palmer, Kristin Du Mez, Jennifer Knapp, Brad Jersak, Brian Zahnd, Paul Young, and more? Well, if you head over to Quoir Academy and register for SQUARE 2 using the Promo Code [RAD] you’ll get 10% off the regular registration cost of this awesome course and community just for being a fan of our show. Follow this registration link: https://www.bk2sq1.com/square-2-next-steps-into-reconstruction?coupon=RAD

Is there a good kind of contamination? The energy and emotion get turned up in this 2nd part of our conversation with teacher and author Bille Hoard about disgust and "eucontamination.". This week we also introduce our new "Bible Moment" segment with Bible Teacher Amanda Pence, MA, who provides valuable context, history, and insight into how passages from the Hebrew Bible and Christian New Testament apply to the episode topic--in this case, disgust (and who are the "real" people of God)

Billie Hoard is "a trans woman, teacher, author, and something of an Anabaptist radical.” Billie and her brother, psychology professor Paul Hoard, are co-authors of the forthcoming book “Eucontamination: Disgust Theology and the Christian Life” (Cascade Books), a psychological, theological, and sociological exploration of disgust, purity/contamination, and being transformed by what’s trueFind Billie's work at billieiswriting.substack.com and connect on IG/Threads @billieiswriting

Amanda Pence MA is a Bible scholar who graduated with highest honors from Talbot School of Theology (Biola University). She is committed to studying the Bible in context & with a deep commitment to its inspiration & authority. She is also an Evangelical LGBTQIA+ advocate who affirms the full inclusion of all siblings of faith, in all levels of the church. Find out more about her academic writings and public speaking at https://www.amandapence.org. Subscribe to her Substack at https://open.substack.com/pub/amandapence.

Find your guides at Quoir Academy! If you’ve ever deconstructed your faith you know it’s not easy. But just imagine if you could have people to guide you through your process? People like, Jim Palmer, Kristin Du Mez, Jennifer Knapp, Brad Jersak, Brian Zahnd, Paul Young, and more? Well, if you head over to Quoir Academy and register for SQUARE 2 using the Promo Code [RAD] you’ll get 10% off the regular registration cost of this awesome course and community just for being a fan of our show. Follow this registration link: https://www.bk2sq1.com/square-2-next-steps-into-reconstruction?coupon=RAD

Disgust is powerful. If our body believes something we ingest is contaminated, we will throw it up before our mind even knows what happened. But is there a good kind of contamination? Teacher and author Bille Hoard makes the case that disgust can make us reject “euconaminants,” too—the people and qualities that can “infect” us with goodness.

Billie Hoard is "a trans woman, teacher, author, and something of an Anabaptist radical.” Billie and her brother, psychology professor Paul Hoard, are co-authors of the forthcoming book “Eucontamination: Disgust Theology and the Christian Life” (Cascade Books), a psychological, theological, and sociological exploration of disgust, purity/contamination, and being transformed by what’s true

Find Billie's work at billieiswriting.substack.com and connect on IG/Threads @billieiswriting

Find your guides at Quoir Academy! If you’ve ever deconstructed your faith you know it’s not easy. But just imagine if you could have people to guide you through your process? People like, Jim Palmer, Kristin Du Mez, Jennifer Knapp, Brad Jersak, Brian Zahnd, Paul Young, and more? Well, if you head over to Quoir Academy and register for SQUARE 2 using the Promo Code [RAD] you’ll get 10% off the regular registration cost of this awesome course and community just for being a fan of our show. Follow this registration link: https://www.bk2sq1.com/square-2-next-steps-into-reconstruction?coupon=RAD

Bible Teacher Amanda Pence wants you to know your hermeneutic—that is, what lens you’re looking through when you read the Bible. There is no perfect “plain reading” of scripture. We all interpret our way through this library, written by many people in various times, places, & situations—& bring much of our own context to the page. Amanda tells us her story of how studying the Bible broke her out of what some call the “Biblical Worldview” & led her to a loving, inclusive, understanding of what Christ & the Holy Spirit are up to.

Amanda Pence MA is a Bible scholar who graduated with highest honors from Talbot School of Theology (Biola University). She is committed to studying the Bible in context & with a deep commitment to its inspiration & authority. She is also an Evangelical LGBTQIA+ advocate who affirms the full inclusion of all siblings of faith, in all levels of the church. Find out more about her academic writings and public speaking at https://www.amandapence.org. Subscribe to her Substack at https://open.substack.com/pub/amandapence.

Find your guides at Quoir Academy! If you’ve ever deconstructed your faith you know it’s not easy. But just imagine if you could have people to guide you through your process? People like, Jim Palmer, Kristin Du Mez, Jennifer Knapp, Brad Jersak, Brian Zahnd, Paul Young, and more? Well, if you head over to Quoir Academy and register for SQUARE 2 using the Promo Code [RAD] you’ll get 10% off the regular registration cost of this awesome course and community just for being a fan of our show. Follow this registration link: https://www.bk2sq1.com/square-2-next-steps-into-reconstruction?coupon=RAD

Bible Teacher Amanda Pence wants you to know your hermeneutic—that is, what lens you’re looking through when you read the Bible. There is no perfect “plain reading” of scripture. We all interpret our way through this library, written by many people in various times, places, & situations—& bring much of our own context to the page. Amanda tells us her story of how studying the Bible broke her out of what some call the “Biblical Worldview” & led her to a loving, inclusive, understanding of what Christ & the Holy Spirit are up to.

Amanda Pence MA is a Bible scholar who graduated with highest honors from Talbot School of Theology (Biola University). She is committed to studying the Bible in context & with a commitment to its inspiration & authority. She is also an Evangelical LGBTQIA+ advocate who affirms the full inclusion of all siblings of faith, in all levels of the church. Find out more about her academic writings and public speaking at https://www.amandapence.org. Subscribe to her Substack at https://open.substack.com/pub/amandapence.

Find your guides at Quoir Academy! If you’ve ever deconstructed your faith you know it’s not easy. But just imagine if you could have people to guide you through your process? People like, Jim Palmer, Kristin Du Mez, Jennifer Knapp, Brad Jersak, Brian Zahnd, Paul Young, and more? Well, if you head over to Quoir Academy and register for SQUARE 2 using the Promo Code [RAD] you’ll get 10% off the regular registration cost of this awesome course and community just for being a fan of our show. Follow this registration link: https://www.bk2sq1.com/square-2-next-steps-into-reconstruction?coupon=RAD

As Bruce Epperly regularly writes to the Speaker Mike Johnson , "Please consider what Jesus, not Trump, would do." Using this petition as a starting point, we talk with Epperly, who is a theologian, spiritual guide, pastor, professor, and prolific author, about Christianity and US politics today. Listen as he explains how conservative efforts to hold onto traditional theology & the "greatness" of the 1950s goes against the "divinely creative grain of the universe." Liberals are not spared, (nor are Conservatives written off--we are all still "one Church") in this conversation that seeks Christ in the midst of a binary political divide.

Dr. Bruce Epperly is the author of over 60 books, including his latest, "The God of the Growing Edge: Whitehead and Thurman on Theology, Spirituality, and Social Change" & the recent "Homegrown Mystics: Restoring Our Nation with the Healing Wisdom of America's Visionaries." In addition to teaching, preaching, and writing, Epperly is also a leading thinker in Process Theology and Christian Mysticism (and as you can hear in the podcast, hundreds of other topics.) You can find out more about Bruce Epperly and his work at www.drbruceepperly.com.

Find your guides at Quoir Academy! If you’ve ever deconstructed your faith you know it’s not easy. But just imagine if you could have people to guide you through your process? People like, Jim Palmer, Kristin Du Mez, Jennifer Knapp, Brad Jersak, Brian Zahnd, Paul Young, and more? Well, if you head over to Quoir Academy and register for SQUARE 2 using the Promo Code [RAD] you’ll get 10% off the regular registration cost of this awesome course and community just for being a fan of our show. Follow this registration link: https://www.bk2sq1.com/square-2-next-steps-into-reconstruction?coupon=RAD

As Bruce Epperly regularly writes to the Speaker Mike Johnson , "Please consider what Jesus, not Trump, would do." Using this petition as a starting point, we talk with Epperly, who is a theologian, spiritual guide, pastor, professor, and prolific author, about Christianity and US politics today. Listen as he explains how conservative efforts to hold onto traditional theology & the "greatness" of the 1950s goes against the "divinely creative grain of the universe." Liberals are not spared, (nor are Conservatives written off--we are all still "one Church") in this conversation that seeks Christ in the midst of a binary political divide.

Dr. Bruce Epperly is the author of over 60 books, including his latest, "The God of the Growing Edge: Whitehead and Thurman on Theology, Spirituality, and Social Change" & the recent "Homegrown Mystics: Restoring Our Nation with the Healing Wisdom of America's Visionaries." In addition to teaching, preaching, and writing, Epperly is also a leading thinker in Process Theology and Christian Mysticism (and as you can hear in the podcast, hundreds of other topics.) You can find out more about Bruce Epperly and his work at www.drbruceepperly.com.

Find your guides at Quoir Academy! If you’ve ever deconstructed your faith you know it’s not easy. But just imagine if you could have people to guide you through your process? People like, Jim Palmer, Kristin Du Mez, Jennifer Knapp, Brad Jersak, Brian Zahnd, Paul Young, and more? Well, if you head over to Quoir Academy and register for SQUARE 2 using the Promo Code [RAD] you’ll get 10% off the regular registration cost of this awesome course and community just for being a fan of our show. Follow this registration link: https://www.bk2sq1.com/square-2-next-steps-into-reconstruction?coupon=RAD