What does it take to win a World Cup—not just as a player, but as the coach leading your country to victory?

In this episode of Rugby Legends, Arthur interviews Sir Clive Woodward, the coach who led England to glory in 2003. But this isn’t just about lifting trophies. It’s about the mindset behind it all. The mistakes, the habits, the leadership—and the importance of never settling for average.

Sir Clive explains how he spots potential in young players, how he teaches teams to bounce back from setbacks, and what makes a great captain. He shares moments from his playing career and how that shaped him into the coach he became. He even breaks down how to stay calm under pressure, how to keep improving when you think you’ve “made it,” and why character off the pitch matters just as much as skill on it.

If you’re 12–16 and serious about rugby, sport, or just growing as a person—this episode is full of lessons you’ll want to remember.

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