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Justice League

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This week we took a brief hiatus from Battlestar Galactica, as Mark forces Michael to watch the 2017 DC superhero team-up movie, Justice League. We'll be back on track next week with the conclusion of “The Gun on Ice Planet Zero," which can be viewed here. Justice League's original director Zack Snyder left the film before it was completed, and Joss Whedon was brought in to finish the film. Whedon apparently changed quite a bit, and the film that hit theaters was very different from what Snyder had imagined, leading to social media calls among Synder fans to #ReleaseTheSnyderCut. This week, HBO Max is doing just that, with Synder’s completed 4-hour version hitting the streaming service on March 18th. So, we (read: Mark) thought this was a great opportunity for Deja Reviewed to take its first stab at a rebooted movie. Enjoy, then you can decide if a different-but-still-a-lot-of-the-same-stuff 4 hour version of Justice League is worth your time. The 2017 cut of the film can be viewed behind a paywall here.Michael heartily apologizes to Gal Gadot, as her last name is pronounced guh-dowt. Call me, Gal, for a more comprehensive apology. Here is her being adorable and pronouncing it.Zack Synder was basically given the reins to the entire DC superhero film line (what Warner Brothers dubbed the “DC Expanded Universe” or “DCEU” to compete with the wildly successful “Marvel Cinematic Universe” or “MCU”). He directed the first two films in this iteration of the DC world, Man of Steel and Batman vs. Superman: Dawn of Justice (which also introduced Wonder Woman), plus sharing writing and producing credits on Wonder Woman (directed by Patty Jenkins) which came out in summer 2017, just a few months ahead of Whedon’s Justice League.Joss Whedon is probably best known in fandom as the creator of the TV shows Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Firefly, but had plenty of experience in the superhero realm, helming the well-received first big MCU team-up film The Avengers, and also its less-well-liked sequel Avengers: Age of Ultron. More recently, he’s been the focus of allegations of creating toxic work environments from the present (including on Justice League) dating back to the Buffy sets. Not being versed in all the details of this still-unfolding story we don’t spend much time on this aspect of Whedon, but obviously it’s going to be relevant context to Whedon’s place in the industry going forward.For what it's worth, Snyder never joined in the public bashing of the way Whedon altered his vision for the film and claims he’s never actually seen Whedon’s finished version.As Michael notes, the core MacGuffin of Justice League--collecting the three “Motherboxes”--seems eerily similar to that of the MCU’s first ~20 films, which were about supervillain Thanos collecting the six Infinity Stones. This plotline came to a head in the massive two-part all-MCU-team-up films Avengers: Infinity War, and Avengers: Endgame, the latter of which was the highest-grossing film in history for a while. Just this month, Avatar reclaimed that title after a brief re-release in China, which raises the question of which Michael thinks is WORSE to be the all-time highest-grosser, given his past comments about Avatar. (MICHAEL'S NOTE: I don't care about any of this.)Michael kind of liked Synder’s 2004 Dawn of the Dead remake, which is being followed by the upcoming Army of the Dead.The best evidence of directors having unique styles came from last season, when we looked at the first season of the original The Twilight Zone. We learned to identify certain directors by their visual styles, even working within the same structure of TZ. And we had our favorites, such as John Brahm.For the record, Joss Whedon was NOT the creator of Veronica Mars, which according to IMDB was Rob Thomas. We assume this is NOT the same Rob Thomas from Matchbox Twenty, though figuring that out conclusively would take more research than we’re willing to put in.Of Snyder’s previous films, we both liked 300 and split on Watchmen. Mass Effect is one of Michael's favorite video game series, and he thinks casting Henry Cavill as Commander Shepherd (or really casting him as anything) is a terrible idea. Mindhunter is an excellent series on Netflix that stars Holt McCallany, who’s the robber Batman uses as bait to attract a parademon at the beginning of JL.Michael heartily recommends author Caleb Carr for historical fiction that's entertaining and tricks you into thinking you're learning something.Michael again wants to recommend Life on Mars (the show, he’s not recommending actually going and living on Mars). The BBC version is far superior, but he also didn't hate the ABC version (except for the ending).Mark recommends Frank Miller’s “The Dark Knight Returns”, whose older retired Batman was what he thought Ben Affleck was going for. Whether that was true or not, this remains an excellent graphic novel and one of the seminal ...
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