In this powerful episode of Off Market Mindset, host Michael Riordan sits down with Steve Pugh, a 28-year real estate veteran and one of Florida’s top brokers. Steve opens up about his journey—from battling addiction and facing jail time to becoming a high-performing broker associate under eXp Realty, closing 40–50 deals a year, and leading one of Central Florida’s top teams.

Steve shares the real reason he walked away from owning his own brokerage to align with eXp, and how he leveraged its systems, training, and network to simplify his life and scale his business. But this episode goes far deeper than real estate. Steve gets raw about the struggles of addiction, the turning point that saved his life, and how personal development, faith, and accountability shaped the man—and leader—he is today.

If you're a realtor, investor, or anyone navigating life’s hard choices, this episode is packed with lessons on growth, humility, and how collaboration can transform your business and your future. You'll also learn:

The truth about brokers switching to eXp Realty

Why most realtors miss out on working with investors

What tools and systems Steve uses to train and support his agents

How creative financing helps distressed sellers AND realtors

Why mindset and environment are everything

👉 Whether you're a real estate professional or someone striving for personal transformation, this conversation will resonate.

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