As Carina and Jacob recover from her birthday celebrations, they reflect on their very different experiences growing up wog. Whereas Carina spent so long ashamed of not being like the other girls in her school, and rejecting her Italian heritage, Jacob always felt part of such a big, diverse community and embraced his Croatian background. Surprisingly, it was the rise of the Kardashians that really helped Carina first learn to love and accept herself… which is why she freaked out when the producers surprised her with Kris Jenner’s phone number - and the opportunity to thank the famous momager for all she’s done.

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In this first episode, Carina and Jacob reflect on how he became her savior while filming Married At First Sight, the night everything changed when her partner Paul punched a door and how she feels like she let women across Australia down in the fall out that followed.

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Welcome to This Is Chaos, a brand-new podcast with Married at First Sight’s Carina Mirabile and her bestie, celebrity hairstylist Jacob Muller where fashion, beauty, lifestyle, and raw honesty collide! Join the duo each week as they share their unfiltered takes on everything from the latest trends to empowerment, business and becoming vulnerable.

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