In this exciting episode of 'The Two Who Recruit' podcast, our host shares their excitement and energy about discussing a thoughtful topic with two influential guests in internal audit.

Sandro Boeri, the President of the Chartered Institute of Internal Auditors UK and Ireland, and Sally Clark, Chair of the Independent Audit Committee for the Rewrite of the Institute of Internal Audit Code of Practice, join us.

The discussion revolves around the new Internal Audit Code of Practice, its implications, and the broad strategic value it aims to bring to the profession. Key points include the importance of organisational culture, adapting to emerging risks like AI and ESG, fostering a diverse workforce, and leveraging the code for team development and strategic alignment.

They also touch upon the nuanced roles within internal audit and the booming conversation around hybrid working, all underscored by hosting tips to create effective, collaborative audit environments.

Time stamps:

00:00 Introduction and Excitement for the Podcast

00:37 Meet the Guests: Sandro Boeri and Sally Clark

01:49 The New Code of Practice: Highlights and Importance

03:59 Challenges and Opportunities in Internal Audit

10:37 Diversity and Skills in the Profession

19:42 The Future of Internal Audit: Courage and Innovation

24:20 Exploring Organisational Culture in Auditing

25:20 The Debate on Remote Auditing

28:31 Hybrid Working: Balancing Remote and In-Person Auditing

33:32 Utilising the Code for Audit Departments

39:03 Recruitment and the Future of Auditing

44:11 Final Thoughts and Fun Questions

Welcome to 'The Two Who Recruit,' where seasoned recruiters Sheena and Jules share their expertise on tackling recruitment challenges from both candidate and client perspectives.

In this NEW SEASON episode, they delve into crucial topics such as navigating employment gaps, handling hybrid work trends, and mastering job interviews. They also discuss the benefits of exclusive recruitment, effective salary negotiations, and the balance between remote and in-office work. Tune in for actionable advice and real-life examples to enhance your recruitment strategies.

Key points discussed:

- Employment gaps and job transition factors

- Effective job interview strategies

- Hybrid work trends in FTSE organisations

- Balancing presence and flexibility in career progression

- Importance of exclusive recruitment

- Tips for smooth interviews and fair salary discussions

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Time stamps

00:00 Introduction and Overview

01:30 Candidate Challenges: Gaps in Employment

03:52 Candidate Challenges: Questions to Ask in Interviews

07:04 Candidate Challenges: Reasons for Leaving and Joining Companies

13:02 Hybrid Working Patterns and Future Trends

19:36 Tips for Career Progression

23:50 Transition to Client Issues

24:03 Should You Ask About Salary Expectations?

24:24 Direct Hiring vs. Agency Hiring

25:33 Challenges Candidates Face in Interviews

27:16 Ensuring a Smooth Interview Process

30:22 The Importance of Using One Agency

36:36 How to Limit Candidate Withdrawals

42:10 Wrapping Up and Final Thoughts

In the upcoming episode of "The Two Who Recruit," we are thrilled to welcome an esteemed guest, Peter Elam, a Chief Audit Executive with a wealth of experience in Internal Audit and Risk Management. With over 20 years of international and diverse experience in Pharmaceuticals and Oil & Gas, our guest has excelled at every corporate level, from local subsidiaries to regional offices and global headquarters. Known for their strong leadership and transformational approach, they have consistently achieved world-class standards to meet their company's evolving needs.

What to expect on the episode

• The state of independence in audit
• What do auditors and GPs have in common?
• What is the right pace of implementing audit change
• How to prepare for an audit committee

Don't miss this episode for an engaging discussion that promises to offer valuable insights and perspectives from one of the leading figures in internal audit and risk management.