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In this episode, I’m joined by Cody Garrett, founder of Measure Twice Money. Cody and I talk about what it means to help others with money in a way that’s human, empathetic, and not transactional. We talk about how to start talking about money—whether that’s with friends, family, or your fellow money buddies—and why so many people hold back from having these important conversations. Cody shares his journey from being a full-time musician to becoming a financial planner, and why he’s passionate about education, generosity, and giving people the confidence to manage their own money. Whether you're new to money conversations or looking for a more values-aligned way to help others, this episode will give you encouragement, clarity, and heart.

The Money Talking Points

1. How can we avoid an echo chamber with money?
2. How can you dip your toes into talking about money?
3. Who can you teach about money to help you learn it twice?

Time Stamps for Key Topics00:00 – Welcome and intro to today’s episode + money talking points04:00 – Cody’s backstory: from music major to financial planner06:15 – The early career pressure to sell vs. actually serve09:30 – Cody’s "education-first" philosophy and how he started giving away his process11:40 – Why he believes financial planning is inherently generous14:25 – The financial trauma and emotion people bring into money conversations18:30 – The three biggest fears that keep people from talking about money21:55 – How Cody defines success in his work today24:40 – Why giving away resources can build trust—and real change29:15 – Cody’s advice to anyone wanting to start helping others with money32:00 – Wrap-up: small ways to begin a money conversation with someone you know

Links & Resources MentionedCody Garrett’s website: https://www.measuretwicemoney.com/

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