🎙️ Spoiled Fruit: Faith & Power – Full Interview: Ryan Bauers

In this full-length interview episode of Spoiled Fruit: Faith & Power, we sit down with Ryan Bauers, former Vineyard pastor in Duluth, Minnesota, who in 2014 formally raised concerns to Vineyard USA about Michael and Brenda Gatlin—years before their son Jackson was placed into leadership or arrested for sexual misconduct.

In this powerful and personal conversation, Ryan reflects on what led him to speak up, how his concerns were received, and the emotional and spiritual toll that came with being a voice of warning inside a system not prepared to listen.

This interview is part of our extended series of full, unedited conversations with key individuals whose testimonies are essential to understanding the culture, breakdowns, and missed opportunities for accountability inside the Vineyard movement.

⚠️ Content Warning:

This episode includes discussions of spiritual and emotional abuse, leadership misconduct, and the mishandling of abuse reports. It may include strong language and emotionally difficult content. Please listen with care.

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🛑 Legal Disclaimer:

The views and experiences shared in this episode are those of the individuals interviewed and do not necessarily reflect the official position of any organization, past or present. This podcast is intended for informational and storytelling purposes only and should not be interpreted as legal, therapeutic, or professional advice. If you or someone you know has experienced abuse in a faith-based or institutional setting, please seek help from qualified professionals and survivor-advocacy organizations.

🎙️ Credits:

Guest: Ryan Bauers, former Vineyard pastor, Duluth, MN

Written and Hosted by: John Williamson

Produced by: John Williamson Productions, LLC