Originally released on January 4, 2023, this gem from Series 3 of The DOD45 Show returns as part of our full podcast archive re-upload. Why the rerun? Because Spotify, in all its wisdom, decided to shut down our original podcast account—so now we’re bringing every episode back, as many as possible, sometimes daily, in between new drops from Series 8. Thanks for the detour, Spotify.

By the time this one aired, we’d hit our Series 3 stride. The format had started locking in, the pacing was almost dialed, and we were finally loosening the screws enough to let the madness flow. Still not the evolved beast it is post-Series 7—but you could tell it was coming.

This episode featured the triumphant return of Illogic (Jawhar Glass), fresh off nearly retiring from the mic. He joined Tai and Adrienne to talk about his album The Transition—a record of growth, change, and creative rebirth.

While Tai live-drew a piece inspired by Christopher Nolan’s Memento, the conversation spiraled through music, movies, chili, laws, and laughs.

What went down:

• Illogic’s deep love for Nolan films and how Tenet might be impossible to understand

• Who played Batman best (and worst), and his picks to play The Joker

• Imagined collaborations with Billie Eilish and Billie Holiday

• A Guy Fieri vs. pasta debate that turned heated (Cincinnati chili enters the chat)

• Mr. Dibbs dropped a surprise question that cracked everyone up

• A breakdown of bizarre Ohio laws

• And the ultimate question: Is Illogic a better fit in Kill Bill or Bill & Ted’s Excellent Adventure?

Did You Know:

• Illogic is widely credited as one of the pioneers of abstract, poetic hip-hop in the underground scene.

• His collaborations with Blueprint and Aesop Rock helped shape an entire generation of indie lyricists.

• The Transition was seen by fans as one of his most personal, introspective works to date.

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Theme Music by Mr. Dibbs:
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Bandcamp: illogic.bandcamp.com

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Peace.
– Tai

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