we're joined by Jesse's bestie Amanda to recap the highs and lows of this year's festival experience.

The physical toll of festival life becomes our first topic of conversation, with everyone confessing what's making them feel old this year—from leg pain to needing more frequent sitting breaks. But the joy of witnessing younger generations embracing the scene (complete with JNCOs and tank tops!) reminds us why we keep coming back year after year, with some of us celebrating our 10th Rockville anniversary.

We dive into detailed recaps of the standout performances from each day: Thursday's nostalgic sets from Blue October and a reunited Crossfade, Friday's wall-of-death masterclass from Left to Suffer and the iconic Green Day, and Saturday's soaking wet Beartooth experience that left us drenched but exhilarated. Between bands, we've navigated the challenges of festival camping, discovered the glory of Octane's cool-off booth, and reminisced about the Florida water parks of our youth.

The conversation takes a more reflective turn as we honor the anniversary of Chris Cornell's passing, discussing both his legacy and Chester Bennington's just months apart in 2017. We share lesser-known facts about these icons while exploring their musical influences and the suspicious circumstances surrounding their deaths. It's a poignant reminder to check in on friends and recognize the warning signs of depression.

As we prepare for our final day featuring Snot, Bad Omens, and Korn, we're excited to introduce the next generation to their first "Korn-ing" experience. Whether you're a festival veteran or considering your first rock festival, this episode captures everything that makes the exhaustion, weather extremes, and occasional difficult crowd members worth enduring for the unmatched experience of live music in its purest form. Support your local bands between festivals, buy their merch, and keep the spirit of rock alive!

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The human mind's capacity to protect itself is both remarkable and haunting. When four-year-old Jenny Haynes began suffering unimaginable abuse at the hands of her father, her developing brain created an extraordinary defense mechanism – dissociating into multiple personalities. Not just a few, but an astonishing 2,500 distinct alters emerged to help her survive seven years of torture.

Symphony, a perpetually four-year-old girl, became the first alter to shield Jenny from the worst of the trauma. Each personality had their own appearance, voice, and role – from Little Ricky who decided which alter would take over during abuse, to Muscles who remained calm in the face of horror. These weren't just psychological constructs; scientific studies have shown that in DID cases, brain waves physically change as alters take control.

The physical damage inflicted on Jenny was as devastating as the psychological. Permanent injuries to her eyesight, jaw, bowels, and reproductive system left her unable to have children and dependent on a colostomy bag. Yet for decades, her desperate attempts to find help were met with disbelief or overwhelmed therapists who couldn't handle the severity of her case.

Justice finally became possible in 2009 when Detective Paul Stamolis and psychiatrist Dr. George Blair-West believed her story. In a groundbreaking court case a decade later, Jenny's alters took turns testifying against her father, providing detailed memories that her primary personality couldn't access. After just two hours of this extraordinary testimony, her father changed his plea to guilty and received a 45-year sentence.

Jenny's story reveals both the darkest aspects of humanity and the incredible resilience of the human spirit. By sharing her experience, she's helped advance understanding of DID and shown that healing – while never complete – is possible even after the most profound trauma. What would you do if your mind was your only safe haven, and even that was invaded?

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The voice behind "I Heard It Through the Grapevine" and "Sexual Healing" resonated with millions, but behind that soulful sound was a man trapped in a cycle of trauma, addiction, and turmoil. Marvin Gaye's journey from child prodigy to Motown superstar ended tragically at the hands of his own father—a devastating conclusion to a life marked by both extraordinary success and profound suffering.

Born to a strict Pentecostal preacher father who regularly beat him and a nurturing mother who worked as a domestic, young Marvin found refuge in music from age four. His remarkable talent eventually carried him to Motown Records, where he climbed from session drummer to becoming one of the label's brightest stars. His marriage to Berry Gordy's sister Anna—17 years his senior—helped cement his place in the Motown family, but couldn't shield him from his inner demons.

As his career soared with hits like "What's Going On" and "Let's Get It On," Marvin's personal life descended into chaos. Cocaine addiction fueled his paranoia while tumultuous relationships, including his marriage to teenage Janice Hunter, reflected his inability to escape toxic patterns. Financial troubles mounted despite his commercial success, with millions owed to the IRS by the early 1980s.

The final confrontation with his father on April 1, 1984—the day before Marvin's 45th birthday—began with a trivial argument and ended with two fatal gunshots. Marvin's last words to his brother revealed a lifetime of suffering: "I got what I wanted. I couldn't do it myself, so I had him do it."

We explore this tragic story of a musical genius whose childhood trauma echoed throughout his life and ultimately led to his untimely death. Email us your thoughts at ***drinkaboutsomethingpod@gmail.com*** & share your own stories of music, true crime, or anything in between.

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What drives a seemingly normal couple to kidnap, torture, and enslave a young woman for seven years? The story of Colleen Stan—known as "The Girl in the Box"—takes us into the darkest corners of psychological manipulation and human endurance.

In 1977, twenty-year-old Colleen Stan made a fateful decision to hitchhike from Oregon to California. When a young couple with a baby offered her a ride, all the safety signals seemed positive. That moment of trust led to seven years of captivity at the hands of Cameron and Janice Hooker. Cameron, a mill worker with dangerous fantasies, had already groomed his teenage wife into participating in his violent BDSM activities. But he wanted more—a sex slave entirely under his control.

The psychological prison Cameron constructed was more effective than any physical restraint. He invented an elaborate fiction about "The Company," a supposed underground organization that trafficked women as slaves, convincing Colleen that if she escaped, not only would she be recaptured, but her family would be murdered. This fear kept her captive even when she was eventually allowed limited freedom—working as a maid, caring for the Hookers' children, and even holding a job outside their home.

What makes this case particularly disturbing is how Cameron systematically broke down Colleen's identity—forcing her to sign a "slavery contract," renaming her "Kay," keeping her in a coffin-like box under their waterbed, and subjecting her to unimaginable tortures. Yet despite these horrors, she developed complex emotional attachments to her captors, demonstrating one of the most profound cases of Stockholm syndrome ever documented.

The breakthrough came in 1984 when Janice finally revealed to Colleen that "The Company" was entirely fictional—a revelation that led to freedom, justice, and the shocking discovery of another murder victim. Cameron Hooker received 104 consecutive years in prison, while both Colleen and Janice worked to rebuild their shattered lives.

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Behind flawless smiles and picture-perfect appearances lurked two of Canada's most notorious killers. In this gripping episode, we peel back the layers on Paul Bernardo and Carla Homolka – the infamous "Ken and Barbie Killers" who terrorized Ontario in the late 1980s and early 1990s.

The story begins with their seemingly charmed meeting at a Howard Johnson hotel in 1987, where 23-year-old Paul meets 17-year-old Carla. We trace Carla's troubling childhood – from her experiments with a pet hamster to her fascination with death and self-harm – alongside Paul's equally disturbing upbringing in a household with a pedophile father and abusive mother. You'll hear how Paul developed his "Silver Tongue Devil" charm despite harboring violent sexual fantasies that would eventually manifest in a series of brutal attacks as the Scarborough Rapist.

What makes this case particularly chilling is Carla's willing participation in Paul's escalating depravity. When Paul becomes obsessed with Carla's younger sister Tammy, Carla not only allows it but actively helps him plan and execute a Christmas Day assault that ends in tragedy. The police failures, the videotaped evidence, and the psychological manipulation at play create a perfect storm of horror that's difficult to comprehend.

This first installment only scratches the surface of one of Canada's most shocking crime sprees. The depths of depravity explored will leave you questioning how well we truly know those closest to us, and how easily evil can hide behind attractive facades.

Subscribe now and join us next week for part two, where we'll reveal how the Ken and Barbie Killers were finally brought to justice and the controversial aftermath that continues to spark debate in Canada today.

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The conclusion of our Monsters of the Moors trilogy delivers the final chapter in one of Britain's most notorious murder cases. After terrorizing Manchester for years, Myra Hindley and Ian Brady's murderous partnership finally came crashing down when they inexplicably involved Myra's brother-in-law in their fifth killing—a fatal mistake that led to their capture and conviction.

What follows is a decades-long saga of manipulation, appeals, and denied justice that's almost as disturbing as the original crimes. Behind prison walls, Hindley crafted a carefully calculated persona, convincing influential supporters of her rehabilitation while Brady openly embraced his monstrosity. Meanwhile, victims' families like Ann West, mother of 10-year-old Leslie Ann Downey, spent their lives fighting to keep these killers behind bars, repeatedly forced to relive their trauma at endless appeal hearings.

The most heartbreaking aspect may be Keith Bennett, whose body remains unfound despite both killers eventually admitting his murder. His mother's desperate letters to Hindley begging for closure went effectively unanswered—a final cruelty inflicted on a family already devastated by loss.

We explore how justice eventually arrived not through execution but through life imprisonment that ended only with the natural deaths of both killers—Hindley in 2002 and Brady fifteen years later in 2017. Their passing marked the end of a dark chapter in British criminal history, though the wounds they created continue to affect multiple generations of families touched by their evil.

Join us for this powerful conclusion as we raise a glass to the resilience of those who fought for justice and remember the innocent lives forever changed by two monsters who found each other and unleashed unspeakable horror across the moors of northern England.

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A seemingly ordinary couple hiding unimaginable evil – this deep dive into the Moors Murders continues with the chilling progression of Ian Brady and Myra Hindley's killing spree across Manchester in the mid-1960s.

We track the disappearance of 12-year-old Keith Bennett, who vanished while walking to his grandmother's house, lured by the promise of helping with boxes. The pattern becomes clearer – these predators meticulously selected vulnerable children, used simple tactics that exploited their innocence, and documented their heinous crimes with photographs, recordings, and even musical mementos.

The Boxing Day murder of 10-year-old Leslie Ann Downey marks a turning point, revealing their complete disregard for human life as they record her pleas and screams before her brutal death. Particularly disturbing is their ability to compartmentalize – maintaining normal relationships with family members while simultaneously planning their next victims.

What makes this case endlessly haunting is how Brady and Hindley lived openly within their community, took picnics at the very moors where they buried their victims, and even attempted to recruit others into their twisted world. Their final murder of Edward Evans, committed in front of Myra's brother-in-law David, would ultimately lead to their downfall.

This episode delivers a powerful message for parents and caregivers: "Adults don't need help from children." This simple yet critical warning might have saved lives then, and remains essential advice today. Subscribe now to hear the conclusion of this devastating story and understand how these monsters were finally brought to justice.

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