In this episode, Dale Sutherland shares his powerful journey from childhood panic attacks to confronting life-threatening situations as an undercover police officer. Discover how he learned to face fear head-on by blending cognitive behavioral therapy techniques with his faith. Whether you struggle with anxiety or simply want to understand how to live courageously despite fear, Dale’s story offers practical lessons and encouragement for anyone walking through their own fears.

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What could buying drugs as an undercover cop possibly have in common with sharing the gospel of Jesus? As it turns out, quite a lot.

Dale Sutherland spent decades working undercover narcotics cases while simultaneously nurturing a passionate commitment to sharing his Christian faith with everyone he met. In this fascinating conversation with his daughter Kristen, Dale reveals the surprising skills that transferred between these seemingly opposite worlds.

The art of persuasion stands at the center of both endeavors. Whether convincing hardened criminals he was a strip club owner or helping someone understand their need for spiritual salvation, Dale developed exceptional abilities in building rapport, telling compelling stories, and creating environments where people would listen. "You have to have confidence, you have to be passionate, you have to walk up to a group of people you don't know," he explains, describing both worlds with equal accuracy.

This episode explores the theological foundations driving Dale's evangelistic passion while offering practical wisdom for Christians who feel intimidated about sharing their faith. His perspective balances urgency about eternal destinies with trust in God's sovereignty, creating space for both determined action and peaceful rest. "Most Christians don't fall into the category where they're too judgmental when sharing their faith," Dale observes. "Most of us fall into the category where we're just not sharing our faith at all."

Perhaps most valuable are his closing thoughts for different personality types. Not everyone possesses Dale's natural gift for conversation, but he offers creative alternatives anyone can implement: email evangelism, gospel tracts, using technology like the Jesus Film app, or creating simple opportunities for delivery drivers to receive both practical refreshments and spiritual information.

Whether you're a seasoned believer looking for fresh evangelism approaches or simply curious about the unexpected connections between law enforcement and ministry, this episode delivers thought-provoking insights about authentic human connection and communicating what matters most.

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From policing the streets to pastoring a mega church, Dale Sutherland's extraordinary leadership journey offers rare insights for anyone making tough decisions that impact others. Join us as this former cop turned pastor reveals his battle-tested leadership principles that work in any arena. Discover why you must choose who to make mad, how to navigate failure, and why leadership at home matters most. Whether you're leading a team, a family, or yourself, Dale's authentic approach to godly leadership will transform how you handle authority, responsibility, and the inevitable risks that come with making the call.​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​

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Thirty years ago, The Undercover Pastor played a role in the arrest that sent this man to prison. Now, the two sit down face-to-face to talk about that day, the fallout, and the powerful redemption only Christ can bring.

They explore the fear of reconnecting, the complexity of defunding the police, what happens when a cop struggles, and the importance of owning your part in any story. This is more than a conversation — it’s a story of transformation, forgiveness, and unlikely reunion.

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What really goes on behind the scenes as an undercover cop? Dale Sutherland, retired DC police Sergeant and current pastor, along with host, Kristen Crew, take us back to hear what life is like as an undercover cop. It's easy to talk about the successful big cases, but in this episode they dive into close calls Dale faced on the job. Dale talks about an unfortunate circumstance that nearly cost him his life, his brave coworkers facing gunfire, a time he almost got attacked by baseball bats to get robbed, and more! Discussion about faith amidst life and death circumstances makes this episode unique to any other podcast you will hear. Whether you are near or far from death, or near and far from God, this one is a must listen.

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What really goes on behind the scenes (BTS) as an undercover cop? Dale Sutherland, retired DC police Sergeant and current pastor, along with host, Kristen Crew, let the audience listen in on a conversation they had between podcast recordings about Dale's ADHD brain, it's impact on his thinking, his work, and his faith. It gives an insightful look at the strengths and struggles behind the success of his life.

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What really goes on behind the scenes as an undercover cop? Dale Sutherland, retired DC police Sergeant and current pastor, along with host, Kristen Crew, take us back to hear what life is like as an undercover cop. It's easy to talk about the successful big cases, but in this episode they talk about a few of the undercover police cases that have gone wrong. Dale is honest about mistakes he made and how to grapple with faith in the midst of the stress and mistakes he made.

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What really goes on behind the scenes as an undercover cop? Dale Sutherland, retired DC police Sergeant and current pastor, along with host, Kristen Crew, take us back to hear how he just barely escaped death. In this episode, you will hear about his work with a dangerous group that ultimately planned his demise. They give an inside look at how he came out alive, the outcome of the case, and touch on how Dale navigated being a man of Christian faith in this role.

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