JN’s back in the states but still living out of her European suitcase. Kate’s new cocktail. A spiritual vapor, a bruised martini, a lemon tryst, and an evening prayer. Dilution is key after JN spends time with a cookbook. Voicing your greatest fears in the Apple store. Is it really ever the jeans that you’re hoping for? We’re getting the fish. A warm Celsius. The Merrel effect. You should be studied in a medical journal.Deep vein thrombosis. Sticker curious. The three week carry-on.

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*Edited: Maintenance—it's not for all of us. The shock of girls being so messy. Can a nut milk ever be creamy? Kate's sudden interest in whole milk. The shape of the word despair. Intentionality visible in a hairstyle. We welcome all questions about the moon. Chips kept hot in a porcelain bowl over a flame. Beet red from anger or humiliation? Tap, tap, tap—making choices. Our commitment to dramatic narrative is deep in us.

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Both hags are stateside. Jacqueline comes at you from her childhood home. Kate shares her neurologist’s three pieces of parting advice. Something’s special is happening in a jar of non-organic Almond butter. A favorite barrier gel cream, smaller microphones, and weeping in JFK. In Act 4’s Product Corner (premium subscriptions only) Kate’s new preferred electrolyte is revealed and Jacqueline teases her sister’s recent nightie launch.

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