How do you survive an unimaginable tragedy?

John sits down with Andrew and Lisa Roussos, parents to Saffie, the youngest victim of the Manchester Arena bombing. The attack not only took their youngest daughter, but also left Lisa with life changing injuries. Lisa remained in a coma for 6 weeks following the terrorist attack, and awoke to the news that Saffie had lost her life.

Andrew and Lisa then campaigned for transparency from the government and the intelligence services to find out what happened the night of the attack. Andrew tells John about the many hours he spent trying to track down Lisa and Saffie in the wake of the explosion, Lisa discusses the slow road to recovery and how they both chose to keep living.

On Thursday in our bonus episode The Gratitude List, Andrew and Lisa share the 5 things that they are currently grateful for.

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