Guest artist MARCUS COATES

joins JILLIAN KNIPE to discuss his work via 'Welsh Incident' by Robert Graves. Published in 1929, this short poem is a retelling of an overhead conversation about "un-Welsh" creatures emerging from the sea.

coff.ee/artfictions

patreon.com/ARTFICTIONSPODCAST

MARCUS and Jillian's conversation encompasses longing, empathy, humour, grasping, death, wolves, psychosis, parenting, migration, birds, badgers, unknowability, parenting, morality, predators, blindfolding, eagles, immigration and a willingness to be uplifted. Also: feeling inadequate, religious conformity, instinctive behaviours, war experiences, emptying yourself, the mundane, sounding pathetic, false destinations, exploitation of care, limitations of language, modes of relating, suspension of disbelief, de-centring of humanity, failure of the imagination, the ripple effect of artworks, plaster on a broken leg, stark realities of survival, travelling in the mind, proliferation of domestic cats, and the human need to buy in, to belong, to believe.

MARCUS COATES

@marcus_coates_

'Conference of the Birds'

katemacgarry.com/artworks/9111-marcus-coates-conference-for-the-birds-2019/

'The Trip'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEAuRv0xv8M

'The Directors'

artangel.org.uk/project/the-directors/

whatsgoingon.org.uk

'Sunbird for Palestine'

bookworks.org.uk/publishing/shop/palestine-sunbird/

'Dawn Chorous'

www.youtube.com/watch?v=zF1uihdcZmY

'The Last of its Kind'

workplace.art/exhibitions/the-last-of-its-kind

'Nature Calendar'

katemacgarry.com/artworks/10446-marcus-coates-nature-calendar-2022/

'Finfolk'

COLLABORATORS

Helen Macdonald 'H is for Hawk'

Jeff Samples

ARTISTS & PERFORMERS

Brian Catling

Fiona Curran 'Your Sweetest Empire is to Please'

Helen Chadwick

Marylin Munroe

Richard Ayodeji Ikhide

Richard Burton

Thomas Bewick

AUTHORS & BOOKS

Anna Burns 'The Milkman'

Flann O'Brien 'The Third Policeman'

Robert Graves 'Welsh Incident'

GALLERIES & ART ORGS

Artangel

Freize Art Fair

Kate MacGarry

Royal Academy

The Serpentine

FILM

'The Boy and the Heron' Hayao Miyazake for Studio Ghibli

RESEARCH ARTICLE

theguardian.com/environment/2024/dec/12/why-birdsong-matters-more-than-you-think

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Guest artist HELEN JOHNSON

joins JILLIAN KNIPE for this final episode of Series 5, to discuss her work via 'The Birds' by Tarjei Vesaas. Published originally in 1957, then by Penguin Random House in 2019, this short novel describes the relationship between Hege and her younger, mentally challenged brother Mattis. With a sense of non-judgemental simplicity and acute sensitivity, we join the siblings as they negotiate everyday life in partial isolation and on the edge of something happening.

HELEN and Jillian's conversation encompasses lightning, tenderness, siblings, gullibility, hiding, tapestry, holding, frustration, anguish, excavation, metaphors, equality, masking, knitting needles, dream worlds, shattered trees, portals, body punctures, art therapy, white supremacy, honest thieves, cartography lines, blinding flies, Oedipus complex, intergenerational privilege, psychotic structure, architectural blueprints, birthing shit, monetising colonialisation, not being othered, the weight of the work, creating a space for healing, writing being like a drawing, and a lot of Lacanian psychotherapy - a real learning experience !

HELEN JOHNSON

helenjohnson.net

'Opening' Pilar Corrias Savile Row til 6 Jan 2024

'Agency' Pilar Corrias 2019

'Warm Ties' ICA 2017

ARTISTS

Aleksandra Waliszewska

Aliza Nisenbaum

Bridget Riley

Christina Quarles

Denzil Forrester

Fred Williams

Georgiana Houghton

Joy Labinjo

Judy Watson

Katie Pratt

Laura Owens

Maja Ruznic

Marcus Coates 'The Directors' Artangel

Melanie Jackson

Nicole Eisenman

Njideka Akunyili Crosby

Paola Balla

Rosie Mullan

Shanti Panchal

Yhonnie Scarce

AUTHORS + BOOKS

Darian Leader 'The New Black: Mourning, Melancholia and Depression' 2008

Jackie Wullschläger 'Monet: The Resless Vision' 2023

Jennifer Higgie 'The Other Side: A Journey into Women, Art and the Spirit World' 2023

Karl Ove Knausgaard

National Gallery of Australia 'Know My Name: Australian Women Artists Since 1900' 2021 Part 1 2022 Part 2

CURATORS + ART HISTORIANS

Helen Molesworth 'Dialogues' David Zwirner

Sarah McCrory

THEORISTS + ANALYSTS + ACTIVISTS

Anna Freud

Donald Winnicott

Jacques Lacan

Joy Shaverien

Melanie Klein

Meriki Onus

Sigmund Freud

Shirley Sharon-Zisser 'What Would a Lacanian Art Therapy Look Like'

Walter Benjamin

Wilfred Bion

GALLERIES + ART INSTITUTIONS

Glasgow International

ICA Institute of Contemporary Art

Kunstverein in Hamburg

Kingsgate Project Space

Latrobe University

MCA NSW Museum of Contemporary Art Australia

NGV National Gallery of Victoria

Pilar Corrias

SeMA Seoul Museum of Art

Tate Galleries

Guest artist ELEONORA AGOSTINI joins PELUMI ODUBANJO to discuss her art practice via 'Boxes', a short story featured in 'Elephant and Other Stories' 1998 Collins Harvill. Written by Raymond Carver and originally published in The New Yorker, the story explores connections, disillusion, powerlessness, worry and loss within a mother and son relationship, as well as the distance between listening and hearing.

ELEONORA and Pelumi's discussion encompasses immortality, microcosmos, waitressing, belonging, mothers, self representation, the grid, family frictions, bitter endings, creepy observation, archival images, being deeply uncomfortable, hiding in bushes, multiple layers of meaning, the complicated teenage years, difficulty bringing closure to relationships, connections between pictures and performance, and not wanting to be the dictator of the image.

@eleonoraagostini

eleonoraagostini.com

Foam Talent 2024-2025

Bloomberg New Contemporaries, 2019

'A Study of Waitressing'

'A Blurry Aftertaste' 2018

'Laying with Strangers'

'Welcome Sir'

'How to Stand in Front of the Camera'

'How to Stand in Front of the Client'

'Notes for my Clients'

'The Steps'

@pelumi.odubanjo

ARTISTS

Olukemi Lijadu

Ragnar Kjartansson

WRITERS

John Cheever

Raymond Carver

GALLERIES & INSTITUTIONS

Barbican

Borough Road Gallery 'With Monochrome Eyes' 2020

Palais de Tokyo

Royal College