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# 54 Agility and Sustainability with Joanna Masraff and Joanne Stone

# 54 Agility and Sustainability with Joanna Masraff and Joanne Stone

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 "We are 100% convinced that IT sustainability matters but we can’t add more non business requirements, we have agile teams." This often heard sentence from product managers or CPOs, led to this dedicated episode on agility and sustainability where host Gaël Duez welcomes 2 seasoned agile coaches: Joanne Stone, the founder of Agilist 4 planet and the We Hope Magazine, and Joanna Masraff, co-organiser of the the Agilists4Sustainability meetup group, and the Agilists4Planet conference. In this interview, filled with positive energy, they covered: 🛠️ Sustainability twisted technics, 🏃 Urgency vs sustainable pace of transformation, 🎯 Objectives or Key Results when incorporating Sustainability into OKR framework, 🎬 How to kick start sustainability transformation, 🔥 The importance of passionate people and influencers, 🧙 Agile coaches as alchemists of change.
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