In this episode, Phil Treadwell talks with Michael Brennan about redefining leadership and making intentional impact. Michael emphasizes that leadership is a verb, not a noun; it’s about taking action, not holding a title. He encourages listeners to "lead up" regardless of their role and to say yes to opportunities that create growth. They discuss how consistency builds trust over time and how small actions, like a thoughtful text, can make a big difference.

Michael Brennan is the president of Nationwide Mortgage Bankers (NMB), overseeing sales and operations across 47 states. He leads the NMB Affinity Platform, a financial wellness initiative built on strategic partnerships. Previously, he was president of Movement Mortgage, where he helped grow the company to 5,600 employees and $33 billion in annual volume. Michael is also active in philanthropy, supporting global nonprofits and serving as a key partner in John Maxwell’s EQUIP Foundation.

01:30 Meet Michael

06:20 It’s Not How It’s Always Been

10:15 Lead Up

13:20 Leadership is a Verb

16:55 Never Say No

22:05 Consistency Compounds

24:50 Part of the Impact

32:20 Send That Text

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