Welcome back to Divorce at Altitude with Ryan Kalamaya and Amy Goscha! In this episode, Ryan and co-host Amy Goscha are recording from their brand-new office near Cherry Creek—and reflecting on the mindsets that shape how clients experience divorce and custody disputes.

Drawing from both their professional and personal experiences, Ryan and Amy unpack what it means to manage emotions, expectations, and communication through one of life’s most difficult transitions. Whether you're an attorney or someone navigating a family law matter, this episode offers valuable insights into the human side of the legal process.

Episode Highlights

Client Mindset & Overwhelm
• Why some clients want their lawyer to “drive the train”
• Recognizing when you're in fight-or-flight mode
• How attorneys can meet clients where they are emotionally

The Reality of ‘Divorce Fog’
• Why trauma and anxiety affect task execution
• Tips for taking small steps forward, even when overwhelmed
• The importance of responsive communication during crisis

Entrenchment & Reactivity
• What happens when clients feel the need to “fight back”
• Why doing nothing can sometimes be the best strategy
• The plane analogy: understanding the quiet middle phase of litigation

When Lawyers Are Clients
• Why attorneys are often the toughest clients
• Balancing legal knowledge with emotional vulnerability
• Letting go of control and trusting your counsel

Managing Expectations & Hope
• Setting realistic timelines and legal outcomes
• How judges weigh custody and parenting disputes
• Reframing conflict to prioritize children’s wellbeing

Key Takeaways

• Divorce is more emotional than logical—give yourself grace.
• Clear, frequent communication helps prevent reactivity and fear.
• Shifting your mindset from “me vs. them” to “what’s best for the kids” is essential.

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What is Divorce at Altitude?

Ryan Kalamaya and Amy Goscha provide tips and recommendations on issues related to divorce, separation, and co-parenting in Colorado. Ryan and Amy are the founding partners of an innovative and ambitious law firm, Kalamaya | Goscha, that pushes the boundaries to discover new frontiers in family law, personal injuries, and criminal defense in Colorado.

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