Matt and Joy kick off their brand-new podcast by getting real about something no one likes to talk about: discomfort. Not the kind that signals danger—but the kind that shows up right before something big begins to shift.

In this debut episode, they share the stories they’ve never told publicly—the raw, vulnerable moments that almost made them quit this path altogether. From Matt’s on-air ambush at a major radio station to Joy’s very first appearance on national television, they open up about what it took to move forward when everything in them wanted to turn back.

What if those messy, uncertain moments were more meaningful than we realize?

You’ll hear how spiritual alignment often arrives disguised as chaos, why doing the scary thing is sometimes the kindest thing you can do for yourself, and how to walk toward what’s calling you—even when it’s terrifying.

If you’ve ever wondered whether you're off track… this conversation will help you see that you're right on time.

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