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In the Midst of Civilized Europe
- The Pogroms of 1918-1921 and the Onset of the Holocaust
- De: Jeffrey Veidlinger
- Narrado por: Leighton Pugh
- Duración: 14 h y 45 m
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General4.5 out of 5 stars 15
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Narración:5 out of 5 stars 13
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Historia4.5 out of 5 stars 13
Between 1918 and 1921, over a hundred thousand Jews were murdered in Ukraine by peasants, townsmen, and soldiers who blamed the Jews for the turmoil of the Russian Revolution. In hundreds of separate incidents, ordinary people robbed their Jewish neighbors with impunity, burned down their houses, ripped apart their Torah scrolls, sexually assaulted them, and killed them.
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4 out of 5 stars
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Important and informative… Could have been cut by 1/3
- De Nathan Booth en 07-13-24
- In the Midst of Civilized Europe
- The Pogroms of 1918-1921 and the Onset of the Holocaust
- De: Jeffrey Veidlinger
- Narrado por: Leighton Pugh
Important and informative… Could have been cut by 1/3
Revisado: 07-13-24
The history of the pogroms in the east is vital for understanding the Holocaust. The accounts in this book are harrowing. I also appreciate the author establishing that some pogroms were instigated by neighbors in the community, others by outside forces, and usually some combination of the two. He also does establish how fluid control of various cities were during the chaos of the Russian Civil War. Interestingly, I found him to be harsher toward the Poles than others—not sure if this is the accurate conclusion but I appreciated a different opinion there.
That said, the depth that the author went into for individual pogroms was unnecessary. So many of the details of the actual violence was so redundant that they all started to run together for me, and I found myself zoning out…a lot. Which I hated, given that these are pretty remarkable and heartbreaking events. I also thought that the proportion of the book spent going into the minutiae of individual pogroms to the time spent on his overall thesis (ie establishing the role of Poles and Ukrainians in the Holocaust and connecting this to these pogroms) was oddly high. He kind of races through the latter, particularly at the end.
Glad I listened…but could have been reduced by a lot and not lost any of the message.
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Masters of Death
- The SS-Einsatzgruppen and the Invention of the Holocaust
- De: Richard Rhodes
- Narrado por: Neil Hellegers
- Duración: 14 h y 6 m
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General4.5 out of 5 stars 222
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Narración:4.5 out of 5 stars 203
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Historia4.5 out of 5 stars 203
In Masters of Death, Richard Rhodes gives full weight, for the first time, to the Einsatzgruppen's role in the Holocaust. These "special task forces", organized by Heinrich Himmler to follow the German army as it advanced into Eastern Poland and Russia, were the agents of the first phase of the Final Solution. They murdered more than one and a half million men, women, and children between 1941 and 1943, often by shooting them into killing pits, as at Babi Yar.
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5 out of 5 stars
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Good book...but...
- De Disintegrator en 08-26-19
- Masters of Death
- The SS-Einsatzgruppen and the Invention of the Holocaust
- De: Richard Rhodes
- Narrado por: Neil Hellegers
Not What I Expected
Revisado: 09-02-23
Good:
-Great writing style. Rhodes in a hell of a storyteller.
-A lot of this would be more forgivable if he was spending more time on the actual Einsatzgruppen forces who were committing these acts. When he did, i was pretty hooked
Bad
-Not apparent that writer used anything other than secondary resources or did any research of primary sources.
-Rambling chapters on individual figures who have been analyzed to death. In these chapters, he is really straining to force them into the theory of socialized violence and does not do so convincingly. Wades into pop/pseudo psychology frequently when discussing these figures. As a psychologist, it drives me up the wall.
-Some baffling factual inaccuracies that, while not especially significant, are hard to stomach if you are familiar with the content.
-Weird, unrelated asides (eg randomly throwing in that Himmler was a virgin because he couldn’t get women to have sex with him). Not asking someone to be unbiased about Heinrich Himmler but it calls into question how objective the writer’s analysis is and is another example of painting these figures as cartoons (which ultimately takes away from the danger they pose).
-Narration far too overly dramatic throughout. Takes away from the truly dramatic parts in which tone is appropriate.
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