Donna Delgado

Award-winning investigative journalist Ross Coulthart has been intrigued by UFOs since mysterious glowing lights were reported near New Zealand's Kaikoura mountains when he was a teenager. The 1978 sighting is just one of thousands since the 1940s, and yet research into UFOs is still seen as the realm of crackpots and conspiracy theorists.

Is there a secret space program that is connected in some way to UFOs? Providing a wealth of data and context for the listener, historian Richard Dolan offers his own conclusion: Yes, there is indeed such a program. But this program is not a simple extension of the normal operations of the US government or military, much less of NASA. Instead, it seems to be the product of what Dolan has previously termed a “breakaway civilization”, a radically advanced and increasingly separate structure that has access to classified science and data denied to the rest of us.