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The Tragic Poet

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Coptic Orthodox, and too upbeat delivery

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1 out of 5 stars
Ejecución
1 out of 5 stars
Historia
1 out of 5 stars

Revisado: 04-05-23

I’m looking for Eastern Orthodox content, and didn’t realize this was Coptic Orthodox (not in Communion with Eastern Orthodox). I would have appreciated more information up front to make a better purchasing decision. Now I can’t return it.

Also, the delivery, for me, is too high pitched and full of intonation (like if you’re watching a kids show).

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A great story, dripped in Orthodoxy

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5 out of 5 stars
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5 out of 5 stars

Revisado: 02-13-23

Not just for children, and not just for Orthodox either. What an amazing, joyful, emotional story.

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Accurate, bitter, too long, no focus on solutions.

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3 out of 5 stars
Ejecución
5 out of 5 stars
Historia
2 out of 5 stars

Revisado: 01-02-22

I generally don't feel compelled to leave reviews.... but I must make an exception for this book. I really, really liked the book at the beginning, but changed my mind as I went through it. I hopefully can paint a non bias review of it due to this.

The premise of the book is that rewards of any kind are not only morally objectionable, but they're counter intuitive, and don't achieve the results we think they achieve. The author presents anecdotes, research into "behaviorism" (which is school of thought rewards and punishments are based on) that contradicts their own stance, studies, experiments, papers, etc.

There's no way most people can go through this book without feeling like they don't make a really convincing argument. There's TOO much evidence they present both from the scientific realm, and in many cases he'll appeal to your own senses in a way that can't be deflected.

Most of the negative reviews are either pointing at communism (He pre-rebuts this claim at 2 points in the book that I know of "off-hand"), centered around character attacks and saying he doesn't have an education (respond to the numerous claims and studies he pulls up, rather than comparing him to Kim Kardashian, or whatever that means).

The negative reviews I agree with wholeheartedly are three categories.

1. The author spend "thirteen" chapter making the argument. It's painful. I personally don't need 10 of someone explaining & reiterating why something doesn't work, and have the reiterate arguments. I think the book could have been much shorter. You get the sense that the reason for the length is that this is mostly targeted at stubborn business leaders & managers who need to hear the same argument, along with multiple experiments, studies, behaviorism that refutes itself, multiple multiple times.
2. The author comes off as bitter and condescending. Towards the end you can really feel their distaste and disgust for the people, thoughts, and mindsets that oppose him.
3. Lack of solutions.

Here's a quote from the book that really exemplifies all the above points:

Part 3: Beyond Rewards - Introduction
"Even before writing this book.... I have criticized the use of rewards "many" times in print and in person...sometimes in a few summary sentences... "and" sometimes at tedious length. People have reacted in a variety of ways... as you might imagine but... the most common response is neither to "endorse" nor to "challenge" the arguments and evidence I've offered... it is to utter "3 words"... wHaTs uR aLtErNaTiVe??. This question would seem to be perfectly reasonable and yet... I have found it frustrating and difficult to answer for several reasons. First of all, the alternative to rewards depends on whether we're talking about raising children, teaching students, or managing employees... Second... "how" we ought to address a problem in any of these areas depends on what CAUSED the problem. What's most ALLURING about "pop behaviorism" is it's promise of ONE answer to ALL QUESTIONS. It is a false promise though... which helps explain why rewards don't work in the long run! For people accustomed to a "bite sized solution": do THIS and you'll get THAT, my apologetic "explanation" that there simply isn't one "alternative" to rewards, prompts knowing "smirks" that seem to say (he says this in a whiny voice): "uh HUH... I thought SO! Come back and talk to me about what's <wrong> with incentive plans, grades, stickers, plans, when you're READY to TELL ME what to PUT in THEIR PLACE!"

He continues this snarky, condescending approach, I sort of cut it off here. There's a couple of things I have to say here.

1. Not every single person that is reading your book is your adversary. The bitterness and the condescending tone hurts your argument. I came to learn about why rewards are bad, not to hear about your ongoing feuds with people who challenge your knowledge. You turned someone like me who was a fan to begin with, against you, so I can imagine what these business people who like incentive plans think when they hear your arguments.
2. I listened to this audio book for almost ten hours. I'd rather not hear, after finally getting through repetitive arguments against rewards that have started to overstay their welcome, is how presenting alternative solutions isn't some easy one size fits all thing and that you're apprehensive to do so. For one, you did a good job explaining this point already.. We get it. We need to examine if "our" solution is actually a good solution and a goal to have. Second off, we're not asking for a one size fits all. Present your different points.
3. Regardless what your book says, telling people to stop doing something, while not intimately knowing that not offering "an" alternative is a non starter, is definitely not the way to go about things. This is like telling someone that trying to stop smoking cold turkey isn't a good strategy (for 10 hours) when their obvious question is "ok what would you have me do" just for you to say "well I'm sort of apprehensive to tell you". This strikes me as insensitive and not empathetic. People search for solutions, not to just be told that the way they're doing something is wrong ad nauseam.
4. A lot of the content here, even in that quote, is fluff and doesn't help to educate or prove their point.

The funny thing is, when they do get into solutions, the first 2 solutions they recommend, are absolutely just reiterations of previous points... can't make this stuff up.

So hopefully that's an unbiased review. I both disagree with a lot of the negative reviews this got, but I also do agree with a lot of them. I think the author more than makes their point on why rewards are bad, and I haven't seen anyone legitimately try to refute them without character attacks. I think breaking down why rewards are bad is good, but the solutions area, while they did make some headway (basically, you need to improve intrinsic motivation, and they give a model to which you can focus on, which they call the Three C's: Collaboration, Content of tasks, and Choice.

The author didn't really elaborate their thoughts on salary and pay and how these things are not a reward, but I think I know the point they are making.

Salary and pay isn't a reward. When you pay someone for their services, you are bartering the money you and your company has, for the services that employee can offer to you. You still need to "pay" people (the author is very clear that this is important) for 2 reasons. For one, you want people to be able to support themselves so that they don't "have" to think about money (for anyone who makes a good salary, you know that if you get a job with a good salary, you're not constantly thinking about that salary, especially if your needs are met). Two, if an employee thinks they can barter their services for a higher salary elsewhere, they'll leave your company. You pay them to keep them with the company, not to reward them. It crosses the line into a reward when you start giving bonuses, and dangling rewards and promotion in front of them, in order to "motivate" them.

But I sort of had to extrapolate this myself, as this point wasn't made as clearly as I would have liked.

Overall, I'm glad I picked up the book (as I'm not sure if another book touches on this subject) but the treatment of the subject could have been a lot better.

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Decent!

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3 out of 5 stars
Ejecución
2 out of 5 stars
Historia
4 out of 5 stars

Revisado: 02-05-20

It was pretty good!

My only two big critiques:

1: the voice Actor for emrey.... just not good. Doesn’t sound like a boy, and also just doesn’t talk how a regular person would talk.

2 was a bit too corny / hammy at times

But I’m glad I listened. It got interesting towards the end.

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