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Great and unique

Revisado: 08-17-23

This was so great - it took me a short while to get into it but I’m glad I stuck it out because the story, characters, and narration are all great.

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Great listen

Revisado: 08-12-23

Good story and charachters, believable yet twisty. Great narrators - but a lot of them. I sometimes don’t pay as much attention to names as I should, so had to skip back a few times to tell who was who but that is all on me

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I kind of wanted them all to die

Revisado: 07-02-23

The story was twisty, but I disliked all the characters. Mostly, I hated the narrator (of the story, not the reader if the audiobook) and found other characters’ attraction to her completely implausible. And while I do enjoy an unreliable narrator, this one was whiney, needy, and insecure - and yet also entitled and demanding more out of her relationships than was warranted by their length. I liked We Were Never here a ton more, even though there were similar types
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Great story - hard to hear at times

Revisado: 06-02-23

Definitely cried, which I don’t enjoy, but just shows the characters are really well done. Parts hard to listen to, but overall very compelling. Didn’t love the narrator’s female voices, but not so bad I wouldn’t listen to the next one with the same narrator.

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Victim blaming like crazy

Revisado: 05-04-23

So messed up - characters saying BS like “well, it’s not her fault, but boys are different, they can’t just be friends like girls can” and “it’s not her fault, but she led guys on”. I am so angry - spoiler-ish from here - a woman is not at fault for being raped and murdered, there is no “but”. Also, the plot was stupid - the people who helped the main character do the research and their actions were totally improbable, you have one conversation with someone in a cafe and then they break the law and lie to law enforcement for you? The doctor is “curious” so he breaks in and steals medical records? These unrealistic elements were necessary because the plot wasn’t well conceived. And even if (spoiler-ish) the victims’ parents didn’t want a big in-the-news investigation, the police would have spoken to the victim’s friends - that was just stupid and again unrealistic that the parents would not want the murder and rape investigated - there was nothing else in the book and the victim’s relationship with her parents that explains that. And everyone talking about how the murderer “loved” her was infuriating. Rape and murder are not love. There are many male authors who can write women characters in a non-insulting way but this book is so full of stereotypes, victim blaming and sexist misunderstanding of women that this author should not write female leads or and definitely not about rape victims from their perspective. Or maybe anything at all. I definitely will not give this author another chance, whether or not he is writing women. Also, I know he is wildly popular but I don’t know why.

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I’m surprised this isn’t rated even higher

Revisado: 02-17-23

This is a great book - the story seems a bit thin at times but ends up feeling totally plausible and the characters totally believable once you understand all the circumstances,

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Excellent quick listen

Revisado: 06-05-21

Very engaging, well written, and entertaining. Definitely root for the narrator beginning to end and didn’t anticipate the ending at all - I listen to a lot and often get through poorly written stories because of the plot - you get it all here.

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Scattered, self-indulgent, hypocritical and glorifies Manson

Revisado: 11-25-20

This book was so irritating (though the narrator did a good job). I just listened to Helter Skelter and it’s just so hard to understand someone like Manson, which is why I listened to this to hear him talk. The author starts by saying he hates it when the media glorifies murderers and then spends this whole time doing that, but since he said he hates it, he does it in a hypocritical and totally scattered way. One minute he suggests Manson isn’t really culpable because of some mass hysteria thing (which even if it was mass hysteria, a fine hypothesis - Manson would still be culpable) and then says the prosecutor was the only one with a master plan because he ignored possible other motives (like the cover up motive) which is totally nonsensical (I am an attorney and it is truly a ridiculous thing to say about a prosecutor). He’s like “maybe Manson isn’t any more culpable than anyone else that was there” and it’s like yes - that’s why they all got the death sentence commuted to life in prison. And then he’s like “maybe he’s not culpable at all”. But seriously, WTF? The stuff Manson says during the interviews played IN THIS RECORDING demonstrate he is. The only part-way redeeming part of this book is that (spoiler) at the end the author acknowledges that he is not really different than the other damaged people Manson dominated and that when he was young he wanted to BE Manson, which is only redeeming (from helping it be less hypocritical) because that was so painfully obvious through the rest of the book where he BS’es about about maybe Manson wasn’t that bad, was a victim of circumstance, is really a lovable bumbler, and how his music was actually really good. Long story short, my guess is that he is unable to justify his belief that Manson “isn’t that bad” even though he doesn’t point to a single bit of evidence suggesting that he wasn’t or that the prosecutor in the original case did anything at all wrong. Horrible; unless you might actually be a fan of Manson, in which case this will help you feel slightly better about yourself (which, for the record, you shouldn’t feel better about yourself).

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Just listened to this for the second time

Revisado: 12-28-18

I read this book first in paper format, and loved it so much that I gave it away so others could read it as well. And now I’ve listened to it twice. This book is a lovely, playful, heartfelt saga of a man who is alive but not alive and gods who are real but whom nobody believes in any more. The language is beautiful and Gaiman’s turns of phrase will make you smile.
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entertaining!

Revisado: 06-26-16

it's not Nabokov, but it's engaging and entertaining. have listened to the whole series.

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