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Julio

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interesting

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4 out of 5 stars
Ejecución
4 out of 5 stars
Historia
4 out of 5 stars

Revisado: 09-15-24

topical. cool ideas. makes for an interesting contrast to Jordan Peele's Get Out. expected the story to go on for longer

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western bias

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3 out of 5 stars
Ejecución
4 out of 5 stars
Historia
3 out of 5 stars

Revisado: 08-25-24

Wery good ancient and intellectual history. But it's handling of recent history is a self serving western perspective. Pagden is a top tier scholar of ancient Greek history and of the Spanish Empire, especially on Colonial Spanish American intellectual history. So the strengths of this book naturally are in his dealings with ancient and medieval texts. But his views on recent history lack the same depth and one can sense he is a little bit out of his depth and tends to take on the unquestioned intuitions and beliefs of a basic classical liberal perspective. For example, in his partial discussion of 20th C anti-colonial nationalism in the Middle East, he relies less on evidence than on the negative associations with "nationalism" that liberals already have. Knowing that such movements were part of a larger Third World Movement for national sovereignty that largely failed due to western intervention/neocolonialism, none of which Pagden mentions, one can only surmise that this antipathy comes precisely from the fact that these movements were anti-western influence. Thus, by the end of the book the author is conflating the ideals of democracy with its practice and this idealized version of the political culture of liberalism with the social culture of the West. Indeed, it concludes as a kind of subtle apology for the recent history of American imperialism as well as the occupation of Palestine (whitewashes the origins of Zionism). Although it is wary of religious extremism in the West, it also ultimately badly underestimates the anti-democraric ethos of American citizens. The resurgence (not " rise," as it is nothing new) of Christian ethnonationalism among white Americans shows flies in the face of the entire last chapter of the book. I think it's still worth reading, but there is a noticable decline in the quality of scholarship in roughly the last fourth of the book.

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the apply tv series is better

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3 out of 5 stars
Ejecución
3 out of 5 stars
Historia
4 out of 5 stars

Revisado: 06-20-23

disclaimer:I watched the series before reading the book. usually, i prefer books over their adaptations. but in this case the source material is less compelling than the adaptation. yes yes i understand the importance to f the book and series in scy fy history. calm down. and yes the stories in the book are conceptually interesting and even philosophically rich. I'm sure it was innovative for it's time in ways we can't appreciate now. but the fact is this--and idk if it was the performance (which was very one dimensional)--most of the characters sound the same: they are all seething and smug, Machiavellian, but not in any distinctively interesting way to set them apart from each other. this is a problem since pretty much all of the action, plot develeopments, and world-building is conveyed through dialogue. so the combined result is that, at any point in the book, you could flip to the middle of another chapter and it sounds like it's the same characters that are just now talking about a different issue (in the same exact seething and smug tone). even contemporary hard scy fy authors whose main focus is the scientific or big picture or historical conceptual content have interesting character development (e.g. Liu Cixin). in taking creative license with a variety of elements of the narrative, the adaptation is surprisingly a lot more imaginative and compelling, though admittedly the adaptation ends up at times feeling more like fantasy than scy fy as a result. anyways it's worth the read but with the reader on this version of the audiobook, it can feel like a slog.

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