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The reader...

Total
3 out of 5 stars
Ejecución
1 out of 5 stars
Historia
4 out of 5 stars

Revisado: 08-07-24

The reader was hard to endure. He has a sort of tonal reading style, almost a chant, that returns to certain higher-pitched emphases (the same note every time) at regular intervals in every sentence. Sort of like juggling with words, throwing the words up the same height over and over in a regular (perpetual) pattern. The reader's emphases do not necessarily correspond with the flow or meaning of the text, and tend to obscure rather than enhance the meaning. You can hear all of this in the sample on Audible. What you hear in the sample is consistent throughout the book, so you can judge for yourself whether it bothers you. I found it substantially more tolerable when played at a faster speed, like 1.5.

The content and writing style were good. This is one of those books that develops a few new and very interesting and useful insights, and the rest is fine but not especially striking. Doubtless things that seemed ho-hum to me will be of interest to others and vice versa. Overall, I don't regret reading this and continue to think about and use some of the ideas.

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Great Book, Poor Reader

Total
5 out of 5 stars
Ejecución
1 out of 5 stars
Historia
4 out of 5 stars

Revisado: 09-08-23

The book is well-written and thought-provoking, and I enjoyed it and recommend it. Be aware, you are going to get a lot of Plato and Nietzsche, along with the Melville. It helped me understand Melville's novel more deeply, but even more it helped me understand what Plato is up to in his works and how Nietzsche approached everything. That was what I was hoping for so it worked for me, but it may not be for you.

As for the reader... no problem understanding the words he's reading, and his voice itself is fine. The issue is that he reads in a sort of sing-song way, with a tonal formula that is applied to every sentence (or two sentences in some cases). Sentences generally begin on a higher tone; important words within the sentence also get a higher tone; then towards the end of the sentence he drops the tone in preparation for a standard higher tonal ending, like a dismount. It's sort of like TV reporter reading an editorial from a script.

Once you realize what the reader is up to, it's very distracting. It also has the effect of making what is being read feel trivial, forced into a box. And missing opportunities for humor or to otherwise add to the pleasure of the work. A good reader takes each sentence for itself, giving the words and phrases whatever emphases and cadences are appropriate based on their context and meaning. This doesn't happen so much when you're following a formula.

Take a dramatic sentence like this, concluding a paragraph on the complexities of the novel: "The result reads like an encyclopedic prose-poem chanted by drunken angels in Hell," That's quite a sentence, and deserves special treatment. But the reader gives it the same treatment as everything else, and the opportunity for a dramatic moment is lost.

Notwithstanding that disappointment, I'm happy I listened to the book. And to be fair: although the reader was distracting and disappointing, he also added a layer of interest. I wouldn't have written this review otherwise.

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Guide for Finding Individuial Stories on the App

Total
4 out of 5 stars
Ejecución
4 out of 5 stars
Historia
5 out of 5 stars

Revisado: 04-21-23

Great stories. As with Volume I in this series (We Don't Live Here Anymore), the way some of the stories are listed in the app makes it hard to jump to that story.

The app index shows the name of most of the stories accurately, but a few are listed inaccurately and some titles listed are not actually individual stories in the book. Below is a guide to sort this out. It's a list of each story that appears in the book, followed by a description of how the story is listed in the app index. The app index separates two of the stories into more than one app index entry, as can be seen below. In cases where the index is accurate, only the title is listed below. Hope this helps!

Introduction: Original Relationships, by Richard Russo
Killings / AUDIBLE: Finding a Girl in America
The Dark Men
His Lover
Townies
The Misogamist
At St. Croix
The Pitcher
Waiting
Delivering
The Winter Father
Finding a Girl in America / AUDIBLE: Finding a Girl in America, Chapter 13
The Pretty Girl / AUDIBLE: The Times Are Never so Bad, Chapter 15,16
Bless Me, Father
Goodbye
Leslie in California
The New Boy
The Captain
Sorrowful Mysteries
Anna
A Father's Story
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Finding Particular Stories

Total
4 out of 5 stars
Ejecución
4 out of 5 stars
Historia
5 out of 5 stars

Revisado: 03-29-23

Powerful and subtle stories, well written. But this review is to provide help on a technical issue: how to find a particular story on the Audible app.

If you listen to it straight through, the readers follow the print book faithfully and you won't have issues. If you're trying to jump to particular stories using the index that shows up on the Audible app, you will have problems. The app index shows the name of some of the stories accurately, but many are listed inaccurately and some titles listed are not actually stories in the book. Below is a guide to sort this out. It's a list of each story that appears in the book, followed by a description of how the book is listed in the app index. The index separates various stories into more than one index entry, as can be seen below. In cases where the index is accurate, only the title is listed below. Hope this helps!

Spotlights (an introduction by Ann Beattie) / AUDIBLE: Spotlights and Biddy
We Don't Live Here Any More / AUDIBLE: Chapter 1, dd, Chapter 2, 3 (Chapters following "Spotlights and Biddy")
Over the Hill / AUDIBLE: Over the Hill, Chapter 1,2,3,4,5,6
The Doctor / AUDIBLE: The Doctor, Chapter 1 (up until 11:36)
In My Life / AUDIBLE: Chapter 1 (this story starts at 11:39) (Chapter following "The Doctor")
If They Knew Yvonne / AUDIBLE: Chapter 2,3 (Chapters following "The Doctor")
Going Under
Miranda Over the Valley
Separate Flights / AUDIBLE: Separate Flights, Chapter 1,2,3,4,5,6
An Afternoon with the Old Man / AUDIBLE: Adultery and Other Choices
Contrition
The Bully
Graduation
The Fat Girl
Cadence / AUDIBLE: fdhdf
Corporal of Artillery / AUDIBLE: Chapter 31
The Shooting / AUDIBLE: Chapter 32
Andromache / AUDIBLE: Chapter 33
Adultery / AUDIBLE: Adultery, Chapter 1,2,3,4
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Good book; performance is just OK

Total
4 out of 5 stars
Ejecución
2 out of 5 stars
Historia
4 out of 5 stars

Revisado: 03-18-21

The reader was so-so - not bad, but also sort of droning and not particularly good. His pronunciations of out-of-the-way words tended to be free-form and were often wide of the mark. Couldn't he have at least taken the trouble to look them up on the internet? (Examples: words like "Aristotelian", or anything in Latin.)

My biggest complaint, something that will bother some people more than others, is that background music started playing while he was reading the last 30 seconds or so of each chapter. I'm baffled why production companies do this. It dramatically changes the listening experience, and makes it difficult to comprehend what the reader is saying. It's like having your restaurant waiter stop by the table towards the end of your meal; he reaches over you and pours perfume on your last three bites of the (previously) delicious entrée. Yum! Or turning on the overhead lights at the movie theater during the last 30 seconds of the movie, before the credits start to roll - just to make sure you were aware it was about to end. Weird!

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Reading is by 13 Consecutive Amateurs

Total
3 out of 5 stars
Ejecución
1 out of 5 stars
Historia
5 out of 5 stars

Revisado: 01-16-21

Wonderful book, wonderful translation. The performance? Well...

The Confessions is divided into 13 "Books" (chapters) that range in listening length from 30 minutes to 100 minutes or so. Each Book is read by a different person, and they are all clearly amateurs. How can you tell? It's not polished, the readers make obvious mistakes, and none of them come across as being first-rate.

From my perspective "just ok" is fine in this case, because I chose this version due to the excellent translation and not for the performance. BUT, some readers were less than "ok", and two of them (for Books 12 and 13) were nearly unlistenable. For Book 12, the reading was slow and expressionless, with odd pauses. (It works much better at 1.3 speed.) For Book 13, the reader turns it into a dramatic performance, with a sort of general pleading tone that rises at times to a proclamatory climax, complete with chuckles (1:12:42 and 1:17:42) and panting (a panting breath into the microphone at 23:11 - to illustrate the word "panting" in the text, naturally). The Book 13 reader's pace is also uneven, with odd pauses followed by rushed phrases. (A speed of .8 or .9 helps even it out.) The reader sounds like a really nice person who loves the book and wants to communicate her enthusiasm, but she kind of ruined it for me. It was like trying to watch a movie while someone is standing in front of you, blocking most of the screen.

Fortunately, if you're just interested in Augustine's narration of his life-story (which ends with Book 9) you will avoid the worst readers. They are reserved for the final four Books, which consist of six hours of philosophical/theological meditations. There's a lot of amazing stuff there, but would be hard to follow under the best of circumstances and could really benefit from a good reader.

Overall: I'm not sorry I listened to this, but it I'm a little surprised that Audible charges full price for it. If they're going to do a discount recording, they should give us a discount price.

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Highly Recommended

Total
5 out of 5 stars
Ejecución
3 out of 5 stars
Historia
5 out of 5 stars

Revisado: 10-01-17

It's a series of lectures - apparently from the class Fagerberg teaches on Lewis at Notre Dame. The content is similar to Fagerberg's book on Lewis, but greatly expanded. Fagerberg knows Lewis well, all of his works, and draws quotations and insights together very deftly. Illuminating and inspiring.

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